Trump to impose 25% to 100% tariffs on Taiwan-made chips, impacting TSMC

[apfelwoischoppen@lemmy.world]

Yeah I know, talking a lot of blowhard talk. Chip die size was the arbitrary argument, but again, that just takes time. They are hedging their bet with a supposed ally with China being their big threat.

"TSMC will produce 3nm chips in the U.S., and Taiwan has already given TSMC the go-signal to manufacture 2nm chips abroad. "

[ivanafterall@lemmy.world]

Look at Henry Kissinger. If left to nature, Trump will live to be 120.

[kibiz0r@midwest.social]

Also, half of the gains in recent years have been in energy efficiency, not just speed.

So if the idea is to do more with less, you don’t wanna rely on old power-hungry designs.

[bemorecareful@lemmy.world]

I don't get the goal here. It's not just that existing fabs are in Taiwan, I thought it was the knowledge was as well.

I was under the impression that we'd built a couple of fabs here and they're not productive due to a knowledge deficit. Maybe I'm uninformed.

It seems, to my uninformed self, that if we impose tariffs we'd be strengthening Taiwan/China relations. Wouldn't China still serve as a middle man?

I don't see us manufacturing when the dollar is so high relative to foreign currency; add in the lack of knowledge and facilities and I'm not sure what you get.

[mosscap@slrpnk.net]

One finger victory salute

[jaymesrs@literature.cafe]

But I thought the Tim Apple donation to the trump inauguration was supposed to curry enough favor to avoid this.

ThisIsMySurpisedFace.jpg.

[voroxpete@sh.itjust.works]

Sure, "low end" wasn't a perfectly scientifically accurate way to describe it. I apologize for my terrible lack of academic rigor.

The point is that they're not going to let their highest end processes be replicated outside of Taiwan. Or, rather, the Taiwanese government is not going to let that happen, because fear of losing access to that technology is their one bargaining chip with the West. Without that, they cease to exist as a country. There just isn't enough incentive for anyone to risk a war with China otherwise.

[justjack23@slrpnk.net]

How to reunite China and Taiwan 101

[tsesejuer@lemmy.world]

indeed, so please stop beating the 1a to death and use your 2a to do something

[7rokhym@lemmy.ca]

Awesome! Send them to Canada, we can build data centres and sell the cloud services back to Americans powered by the electricity that we expect to be tarriffed, and cooled by the water we won't sell.

[tsesejuer@lemmy.world]

world going down faster than ur sister on a Friday night but PC parts go BRRrRRRRRrrrrRRRrRRRR

[tsesejuer@lemmy.world]

lol I've always heard it as the sailor salute

[ag10n@lemmy.world]

Totally agree that it’s a sound strategy to keep their latest and greatest on home soil.
At the same time they are starting to implement tooling for important parts of clients designs like

Core chiplets for Ryzen
iPhone SOCs

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/gaming-monitors/amd-is-now-reportedly-making-all-american-ryzen-9000-cpu-dies-at-tsmcs-arizona-fab/

[eatspancakes84@lemmy.world]

Also, because these investments are long-term when the tariffs are likely to only be short term.

[kandoh@reddthat.com]

I truly believe these are his way of soliciting bribes from foreign and domestic businesses.

They're going to have to pay him to get around them.

[weeblife@lemmy.world]

I've been looking at doing a new pc build but wanted to wait for the new GPUs coming out. Looks like I should just my new build before prices are stupid.

[downhomechunk@midwest.social]

Or at least buy the GPU now.

[siegfried@lemmy.world]

Trump is a chinese puppet apparently

[tomma235@lemm.ee]

So where is the US going to get its chips from then tax TMSC makes over 90% of chips?

[joyjoy@lemm.ee]

TSMC was supposed to open a plant in the US, but apparently that takes a bit of time to get running.