Donald Trump is not joking about making Canada the 51st state, Justin Trudeau warns in hot mic comments

[conditional_soup@lemm.ee]

Ah, I thought I had seen elsewhere that they didn't. Good.

[tarquinn2049@lemmy.world]

Currently, Trumps team is just trying to get something boiling so that if/when polievre gets in power, the situation can be "resolved" without bloodshed.

[gsus4@mander.xyz]

Damn, Wolf Warrior diplomacy is even more odious when the US does it.

[transplantedsconie@lemm.ee]

I don't think you have time for "serious public discussion on the matter".

Once all the 2025 assholes are in place it's go time.

[not_that_guy05@lemmy.world]

You have my understanding and support. Canadians please take care of yourselves.

You had our back in Afghan/Iraq, you have brothers and sisters in the US that will help.

It will take the unity to sabotage any Nazi/maga plans.

[golden_zealot@lemmy.ml]

We don't, I don't know where the guy above got his info, but we ratified the nuclear nonproliferation treaty in 1969 and then completed deconstructing them in 1984.

Someone can post citation otherwise, but I have lived here my entire life and remembered the articles from when they were all decommissioned.

[golden_zealot@lemmy.ml]

I am certain we do not. Do you have a citation?

[golden_zealot@lemmy.ml]

Don't trust uncited information. I am sure we do not have nukes. Look up the nuclear nonproliferation treaty for Canada, we not only don't have any, but haven't stored them for any other country since 1984.

[cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works]

A lot of Americans would come fight right alongside you. People are pissed.

[atzanteol@sh.itjust.works]

He inadvertantly told us what Trump has explicitly told us?

[obinice@lemmy.world]

You're in NATO, if the USA betrays NATO and attacks NATO, they will presumably trigger the famous Article 5 and be at war with all of NATO.

Besides that, you're also in the Commonwealth, and as such I expect the UK and her allies to come to your aid. Our government is spineless shite these days, but I expect we won't shirk our most solemn of obligations.

Either way, if the fascist US invades Canada, it'll be all out war between the US and all of NATO. Won't end well for anybody, but it definitely won't end with the US annexing Canada.

Might end with the Western world being an atomic crater (including the USA) with nations like Russia and China picking over our corpses to establish a new world order, but won't end with Canada being annexed.

The US government would have to be suicidal to do this. Utterly suicidal, to the point of actually being traitors to their own nation.

[joekar1990@lemmy.world]

If you think about it. Have you ever seen him actually laugh or just smirk?

[samus12345@lemm.ee]

"United States declares war on United States after unprovoked attack on NATO ally Canada"

[leadore@lemmy.world]

Ya know, even with all the apt comparisons to Hitler and Putin, one thing I didn't have on my bingo card was him actually trying to expand US territory by invading and annexing other countries. I thought that was one big difference.

Everything else I could imagine is now in progress: Disregard/end of the Constitution and rule of law--check. Dismantling of democracy into an authoritarian dictatorship--check. Mass deportations and concentration camps--check. Full-on implementation of Project 2025--check. Blatant corruption, lawlessness and self-enrichment for trump family and oligarchs--check. Implementation of Christian Nationalist policies--check. Dismantling of federal agencies and beneficial aid programs--check (so far DOJ/FBI, USAID, Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, Dept of Education).

As yet unchecked, but only a matter of time (it's only been 3 weeks!): dismantling of additional agencies and programs: SNAP, medicaid first, then social security, medicare, all the stuff they hate. Use of military against civilians, requirement to carry ID papers with proof of citizenship, sham elections, and more!

Unanticipated by me: Musk given free reign to dismantle whatever parts of the US government he feels like, and now invasion and annexation of other countries and territories!?! In the sights: Panama Canal zone, Greenland, Canada, and Gaza. Could this really happen?

[woodscientist@sh.itjust.works]

Why not? Denying 41 million a right to vote is a minor crime compared to forcefully conquering a peaceful neighbor that had been your closest neighbor. You're talking about a conflict that would easily kill 10% of the Canadian population, and likely level every major Canadian city, by the time the resistance efforts were finally stomped out.

He's saying they would make a 51st state eventually. The US's client state, Israel, denies the right to vote to nearly half of the population of the areas it controls. And we're their greatest ally. Why can't we deny the right to vote to 10% of the people in the territory we control? (Canada's population would represent about 10% of the combined US-Canadian territory's population.) Hell, we already disenfranchise millions due to felonies. And we disenfranchise millions through voter purges. And it was only in the 1960s that we stopped outright legally disenfranchising people due to skin color. You're seriously trying to argue that a fascist government would have moral qualms about disenfranchising large numbers of people!

The US could quite easily even go far as to say, "all Canadian citizens in the occupied territories are resident aliens and will not have the right to citizenship. Their kids will have citizenship, but no one who has ever held Canadian citizenship will get US voting rights." Every Canadian currently alive simply never gets to vote.

This is entirely possible. A right wing authoritarian government is not stupid. They're not going to immediately grant voting rights to people that will immediately vote them out of office. The only way they would do that is if they were confident that elections were so utterly corrupted that giving Canadian's American citizenship wouldn't change the outcome.

[woodscientist@sh.itjust.works]

OK, I just looked up the top speed and divided by the distance, but there may be logistics issues that make that impossible. But really, 2 weeks or an afternoon? It makes little difference.

[canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org]

Hmm... I'm actually not sure if the government could do this without passing a bill. If they have to pass a bill, you bet there will be public discussion during the debate period, and probably before as well.

[unclegrandpa@lemmy.world]

Fascists have to have an Enemy within....AND an enemy without.

trump has created the first

now he's creating the second.

[teamevil@lemmy.world]

Let's go Canada!

[barsoap@lemm.ee]

Guyana is not a colony, it's an overseas department, part of France as the Normandie or whatever, just happens to be across the pacific. They quite recently voted against more autonomy.