Donald Trump is not joking about making Canada the 51st state, Justin Trudeau warns in hot mic comments

[sreudianflip@sh.itjust.works]

Yeah, a reminder to Canadians that our blueshirts (equivalent to brownshirts etc) were rounded up and interned during WW2. They got back to work somewhat right after because the country was still freakin racist, but it took until recently for actual fascism-with-Skippy to pop up again.

[chillpenguin@lemmy.world]

And as an american I applaud you for it. This is the dumbest timeline.

[jimmux@programming.dev]

As an Australian, I have no idea how my country would respond to this officially. The US alliance is basically our entire defence strategy, and we have fostered that by supporting the US in every conflict they're involved in. On the other hand, we could never go against another Commonwealth nation. The cultural weight is too great.

Perhaps the best we could offer is assurance that any Canadian visitors (refugees) to Australia can probably overstay your visas for as long as necessary. For some reason we only care when immigrants arrive by boat. Just follow all the Aussies when they start leaving your ski fields.

[badhops@sh.itjust.works]

As as US citizens here i will join your side

[irateanteater@sh.itjust.works]

From the recent poles I've been seeing, Trump has apparently reminded a lot of conservative voters that they are Canadian. When asked how we should respond to Trump's tariffs, "equal retaliation" and "escalation" combined for like 80%.

This whole thing seems to have poked that button we have where we can watch a hockey game, see someone start a fistfight over a perceived slight, and consider that a perfectly reasonable response.

[irateanteater@sh.itjust.works]

I'm definitely curious to see what happens in the poles when we find out who the Liberals choose. I don't get the impression that people really trust Poilievre to handle Trump.

[irateanteater@sh.itjust.works]

We could probably whip one up in a month or so. We have all the technology and manufacturing capabilities required. And if CSIS doesn't have some blueprints squirreled away somewhere, I'm going to be surprised and disappointed.

[iowagneiss@midwest.social]

Yeah I was gonna say let me cross over real quick. I'm American, so I'll bring my own guns as long as you can provide some healthcare.

[fedizen@lemmy.world]

A blue state with the population of texas, lets see how that affects congress.

[notsteve_@lemmy.ca]

even though it would shift things left, which he hasn't thought about and likely won't acknowledge

I keep hearing this and, ignoring the fact that it annoys me that we're even entertaining the idea of annexation, it doesn't make much sense. For one, there's no way we'd be given the right to vote; And two, Canada will be a bombed out warzone for the far foreseeable future. It's more likely the USA will break apart before Canadians accept being American. Even if we pretended that we wouldn't call on NATO for help, Canadians would go guerrilla until the last Canadian is standing

I think Americans underestimate the level of pride Canadians take in not being American.

~rural Alberta is a different story though~

[rumba@lemmy.zip]

He couldn't even shut down USA aid. All he needed to do was have a semi-intelligent person walk into there and see what the consequences would be for shutting it down. He's consistently just playing checkers on a chess board and having to roll every move back.

He's going to piss a lot more people off and make a lot more problems but he does not have the competency in himself or his team to pull off an operation like that against an actual trained country.

Don't get me wrong, he will eventually shut a bunch of very important shit down probably inadvertently.

Maybe we'll lose a third of the population to an illness or something on his watch.

I'm a bit more worried overall that he's now going to permanently be in power than anything. I don't think the US has it in them too kick him to the curb, and I'm definitely not going to count on the military backing us in a coup.

[irateanteater@sh.itjust.works]

We don't have them, we just have all the knowledge, skills, and resources to make one.

[webadict@lemmy.world]

Violence in exchange for healthcare is celebrated by a lot of people.

[golden_zealot@lemmy.ml]

Yes, I have no argument to the contrary on that.

[irateanteater@sh.itjust.works]

That's honestly what worries me the most. I'm pretty sure any actual conflict will look an awful lot like a civil war, and any student of history knows how incredibly bloody those tend to get.

[kandoh@reddthat.com]

If we're talking nukes and their ultimate results, we could just make our reactors go Chernobyl if they invade.

[branch_ranch@lemmy.world]

i knoe Alberta is probably red, what about the other providences? Any Canadians want to chime in? What would the hypothetical blue/red breakdown be?

[irateanteater@sh.itjust.works]

Ironically, with our reactors, it's actually easier to make weapons materials than it is to make them go boom. It's one of the reasons why we never sell them to non-nuclear nations.

[someguy3@lemmy.world]

Well I'm talked out about this, so what I said to other people: I really don’t think you can not give 41 million people the vote. Even trump when he says 51 state implies that it’s a merger, to use that word.

The only way to do this without becoming THE international pariah on the likes of North Korea is to do it peacefully.

If there is an invasion that comes to blows, the US will become person non grata on the international stage. Everyone will boycott everything from the US and to do with US. This is where you say but but but iraq, and that’s where I say that was different. If the US invades an ally, its finished internationally. I know it’s all rah rah USA number 1 but you need international support/trade/commerce/cooperation. It’s not that people care that much about Canada, it’s that no one will ever want to do or find the need to do business with the US again when there is no trust. They would have just showed that there is no such thing as cooperation with the US. It will be down to Russia and NK (and China will sell things, but China basically thinks they are above having friends/allies). So it you think a right wing authoritarian government is not stupid, they wouldn’t do it, except “peacefully”.

[furbag@lemmy.world]

Guarantee I'd be sabotaging shit on this side to help you guys win. Every sensible American loves our Canadian neighbors and respects their sovereignty.