Donald Trump is not joking about making Canada the 51st state, Justin Trudeau warns in hot mic comments
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In my opinion the most similar country to Canada is actually Australia.
- our colonial past
- we all live in one area and the rest of the country is uninhabitable
- our wildlife kills us regularly
- bogans and rednecks are basically the same thing
- drinking culture
- housing crisis, but precisely that you are brainwashed like us into thinking that owning a house is literally all that matters in life. I think our two countries are the most extreme version of success is literally owning a detached house. Our societies both are in on the exact same pyramid scheme
- funny accents with funny dialogue options
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This is just big talk for the cameras. The logistics of such a thing. Are so ridiculous and insane that if it was actually attempted. Canadians would basically become slaves with no rights.. The Country would be torn apart by Resource fiends. They wouldnt even know what to do with 40 million people under a different legal system, so that would imply hundreds of thousands of people would end up just getting murdered or dying of neglect as society collapses
And that would open the door for massive waves of violence. What ISIS, AQ, etc did to America, That would absolutely be on the table.
This goes for any country. But if a country that's supposed to have been our friend and ally for generations decides its time for Imperialism, and wipes out their neighbor like that in some putin hairbrained map drawing fantasy.... Let me just say that Treachery is the lowest circle of hell. And people would have absolutely zero qualms after having everything taken away from them, in such a betrayal, zero qualms about targetting the civilian population of the aggressor.
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The problem is that the PPC is politically a nonstarter, so they hitchhike on the Conservative party.
the whole reason the PPC exists is because Maxime Bernier threw a hissy fit that he wasn't selected to lead the Conservative party. and it was instead given to Erin Otoole or Andrew Scheer, (I honestly forget which one)
PPC has effectively re-integrated with the conservative party as other factions of the CPC have effectively embraced MAGA/Trumpism/Quisling Collaborationism. making PPC irrelevant and redundant.
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make no mistake, that line gets crossed. its over for everyone.
The US will enter a civil war. And it probably wont end for decades
Canada will be destroyed. Gobbled up in the same civil war south.
NATO will cease to exist. Europe will be in peices. The war with Russia will expand, many of europes countries will refuse to honor treaties and end up fighting each other until some vague lines are drawn between Russia and the resistance. -
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Legally. Trump is Commander in Chief. the readers digest version of most people's understandings is they're supposed to follow his orders to the letter.
practically. who fucking knows. I would predict military bases start shooting at themselves as factions fight for dominance in towns, cities, bases, and states. it would effectively be a civil war. there would absolutely be a coup attempt by a faction of the military.
The amount of chaos this decision would cause would be on the same scale as World War III officially breaking out. America would be in total chaos while it tries to launch an invasion of Canada, (Whether it be the Little green men method of just rolling troops in and the defenders choose not to shoot at them. or it be the Feb 2022 method where Canada formally declares itself to be in a war state and the state attempts to resist, IE a shooting war then insurgenct)
this would absolutely cause a civil war in the states, like I said, but Im not even gonna attempt to theorize how it would turn out. the only thing I know is the world would be in flames.
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Putins playbook wasn't exactly that.
he already had control of Ukraine, the problem was his capos were idiots, pissed off the people. and the people kicked out his capo with torches and pitchforks.
he then declared all future ukrainian governments illigetimate. and his actions have been based on a vague idea of "It all used to be one country 300 years ago because of imperialism, and the current government is not legitimate"
That argument doesn't work with Canada and the US. Yes, the US tried multiple times to take British North America, but failed.
Effectively, America already does control Canada through influence and assertion. but Canada is still a sovereign country. Smooth brained fascist and imperialist Chuds, just want America to look bigger on a map. they think that if there is ever a war with China, they'll need Unfettered access to all materials in grasp. (which doesnt make sense based on their tariffs against taiwan, those tariffs imply they're going to let China take taiwan, therfore no war with China)
at the end of the day, its dumb chuds who treat world politics and the hundreds of millions of peoples lives affected by it, like its a game. and they're angry with canada because america has believed for decades that they're in a culture war, and canadians are the opposition because they're on average, much more liberal than american liberals.
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if the USA betrays NATO and attacks NATO, they will presumably trigger the famous Article 5 and be at war with all of NATO.
If the US used military force (unlikely), they'd just do what the Russians did in 2014. They'd little green men in who were obviously American soldiers, but where there was (barely) plausible deniability.
No sane country wants to actually go to war with the US, so that would give the NATO allies the excuse they needed not to declare war on the US. They'd just lament the tragic incident, and demand an investigation into who these soldiers actually were, and then it would all be over.
Most likely, the next thing to happen would be negotiations with the US like the negotiations with Germany after the Anchluss, with European leaders playing the role of Neville Chamberlain, attempting to appease Trump.
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unironically, something like this would likely happen.
factions within the country, political, civil and military, would fight amongst themselves, and some would ultimatley decide that the Trump Adminstration is Treasonous, Terrorists, not legitimate, etc. and start shooting.
Attacking Canada, is just a red line that would signal the start of the Second American Civil War.
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One of those GTAs prepares you for war much better than the other one.
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Can we get a hint?
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After 20 million scared civilians are neutralized and pacified.... it will look like a fait accompli.
and then will come the car bombs, the mass shootings, the assassination's.The only thing stupider than Russia invading Ukraine and expecting not to deal with a massive insurgency. Two countries that are culturally very close but had extremely bad history with each other as a cycle of abuse, is America trying to do the same thing with Canada,
Treachery is according to the divine comedy, the worst sin of all. Canada doesn't have the boon of bordering other allies trying to help them in an imperialist war from their supposed brothers. but being stabbed in the back will sure motivate people to do things they wouldnt dream of against people they used to call friends. Yes, I'm referring to the "T" word.
also. theres no way Canada gets attacked, and it doesn't cause a revolution or coup in the US. The first moves into Canada, would effectively be the first moves of a 2nd Civil War.
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I live in rural AB and I'd be surprised if 1 person in 10 had anything good to say about trump. Most people know that he's a lying shitbird, and want nothing to do with him. And frankly Danielle Smith is sliding fast since her toadying reaction to his tariff threats.
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This is the main reason I'm sure that a hot war is not going to happen.
Picture how chaotic and dysfunctional the US was in the latter years of the Vietnam war, and that was at least theoretically a war against the great evil "Communism", when the people being killed were "Gooks", who were barely human (at least according to racist propaganda).
Any war on Canada would probably start with maybe 30% support, and only go down from there. Could you even trust American soldiers to follow orders and kill Canadians? Probably some would obey, definitely not all. At a minimum, many would be shooting to miss, rather than carefully aiming.
As soon as Canada was attacked, you'd have Canadians streaming across the largest land border in the world into the US to engage in guerilla warfare -- think the "Troubles" in Northern Ireland, except with much less of a difference in accent. They'd probably be joined by plenty of Americans too.
And, while the US military is very experienced, the US public hasn't had to deal with war on their territory since the Civil War, generations ago.
I won't discount the possibility that the US drums up support for a war by staging a false flag attack or something. But, even with that, I think a majority of the US wouldn't want to risk American lives trying to kill Canadians.
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Good. I'd like to see Canada and Mexico become parts of the US.
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This is what I'm saying.
It would be worse for canadians, but better for Americans which would make things better for both in the long run.
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No you wouldn't.
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Not to disrespect the amazing achievements of the Finn's in that war, but they lost, and lost half their country.
Incredible job not to lose the whole thing ofc.
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Only a crazy person would trade decent healthcare for the right for every idiot man child to buy a gun. Its a horrific deal for canadians.
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So they invade canada and its world war 3? All nato alliey against the us which is like 80% of nato, that doesn't look good.
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Youre talking about countries. I do not care abouy contries. Bombs do not protect people, guns do not protect people.
Killing peoples with guns in third world country to avoid killing with bombs in eu/na is not a win. Getting bombs or guns just temporarily deflects the violence on someone else. The day everyone has bombs, wars wont stop.
You cannot want a safe world for people and want bombs at the same time. It is only viable if you think abouy nations instead of people, but who cares?