Donald Trump is not joking about making Canada the 51st state, Justin Trudeau warns in hot mic comments

[merc@sh.itjust.works]

This is the main reason I'm sure that a hot war is not going to happen.

Picture how chaotic and dysfunctional the US was in the latter years of the Vietnam war, and that was at least theoretically a war against the great evil "Communism", when the people being killed were "Gooks", who were barely human (at least according to racist propaganda).

Any war on Canada would probably start with maybe 30% support, and only go down from there. Could you even trust American soldiers to follow orders and kill Canadians? Probably some would obey, definitely not all. At a minimum, many would be shooting to miss, rather than carefully aiming.

As soon as Canada was attacked, you'd have Canadians streaming across the largest land border in the world into the US to engage in guerilla warfare -- think the "Troubles" in Northern Ireland, except with much less of a difference in accent. They'd probably be joined by plenty of Americans too.

And, while the US military is very experienced, the US public hasn't had to deal with war on their territory since the Civil War, generations ago.

I won't discount the possibility that the US drums up support for a war by staging a false flag attack or something. But, even with that, I think a majority of the US wouldn't want to risk American lives trying to kill Canadians.

[commander@lemmings.world]

Good. I'd like to see Canada and Mexico become parts of the US.

[commander@lemmings.world]

This is what I'm saying.

It would be worse for canadians, but better for Americans which would make things better for both in the long run.

[commander@lemmings.world]

No you wouldn't.

[farceofwill@infosec.pub]

Not to disrespect the amazing achievements of the Finn's in that war, but they lost, and lost half their country.

Incredible job not to lose the whole thing ofc.

[fedizen@lemmy.world]

Only a crazy person would trade decent healthcare for the right for every idiot man child to buy a gun. Its a horrific deal for canadians.

[mangoholic@lemmy.ml]

So they invade canada and its world war 3? All nato alliey against the us which is like 80% of nato, that doesn't look good.

[takapapatapaka@lemmy.world]

Youre talking about countries. I do not care abouy contries. Bombs do not protect people, guns do not protect people.

Killing peoples with guns in third world country to avoid killing with bombs in eu/na is not a win. Getting bombs or guns just temporarily deflects the violence on someone else. The day everyone has bombs, wars wont stop.

You cannot want a safe world for people and want bombs at the same time. It is only viable if you think abouy nations instead of people, but who cares?

[mpony@lemmy.world]

We fucking love Minnesota. You guys are awesome.

[mpony@lemmy.world]

You must be in the East if you think

[hathaway@lemmy.zip]

Well, starting with the civil war Hancock would, if I remember correctly, go on to credit MN for essentially winning the battle that turned the war.

We can start going more modern from there, however, in terms of straight state pride, fuck the slaveowners. Fuck unjust governments.

[madcaesar@lemmy.world]

I would deeply, deeply hope that American soldiers would never follow an order to attack Canada. For all of the Trump insanity, I still have hope that most people aren't batshit like him.

[hathaway@lemmy.zip]

Mexico already had 10k troops on the border.

[prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

This reads like some edgy teen wannabe version of realpolitik... Grow up.

[prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

Dude it's been all of two weeks. I wouldn't say he's failed at any of these things yet, only delayed in some cases.

[prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

Sorry, but no. You might have brain damage if you think he's funny.

[phr34ky@lemmy.world]

They know that China will defend us.

[ouch@lemmy.world]

As a finn, not sure I would call it a lost war to keep independence against an enemy that has superior manpower and resources at their disposal in comparison.

And half is not even close to the truth.

[prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

But also like, what if that was what he's doing... Why is this funny again? This is the president, why would we want someone who jokes about serious shit like that in charge??

[prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

I'd rather come up there and die for Canada