Donald Trump is not joking about making Canada the 51st state, Justin Trudeau warns in hot mic comments

[someguy3@lemmy.world]

How much was the election won by? Pretty sure it was less than 35 million.

[grte@lemmy.ca]

Countries don't have brothers, they have interests.

[pivot_root@lemmy.world]

They can influence the popular vote, but that legitimately means nothing as far as elections are concerned. If they give the entire country 2 electoral college votes as a state, it's voter base is effectively irrelevant to the outcome of any future election.

Should Canada be annexed, they would more likely be given one vote per province, which is 13 votes. With a couple of their provinces being heavily conservative already, as far as shifting things left goes, that would be more like 10 votes. And for context, the state of Florida has 30.

[kandoh@reddthat.com]

Fun fact: we used to have a secret one the Americans gave us.

[kandoh@reddthat.com]

If i were Taiwan or Iran or Ukraine it would be my top priority.

[kandoh@reddthat.com]

Turns out people were pretty good at guessing what the end of America would look like.

[woodscientist@sh.itjust.works]

You're assuming Canadians will be immediately granted American citizenship and representation. Most likely, Canada would become a US territory like Guam or Puerto Rico, and kept that way for at least a generation.

[mummifiedclient5000@feddit.dk]

Certainly true for the US.

[eatthecake@lemmy.world]

It's sad that all I can do as an Aussie is buy some real maple syrup. It also says a lot about what Canada gives to the world. There's a damn good reason that Americans put the Canadian flag on their backpacks. We say here that New Zealand is to Australia what Canada is to America. They are our better, kinder sibling, the ones who didn't join the war, the ons with more honour and integrity. Go Canada.

[bob_robertson_ix@discuss.tchncs.de]

Trudeau should suggest that the US become Canada's 11th Province.

[someguy3@lemmy.world]

Administratively it wouldn't be one state, it would be 10 states because of the 10 provinces. You have 10 provincial governments that run pretty much the same as state governments. If you didn't do that you'd have "state" level, and then a second State level, before you get into counties and lower. Canada can not run as one state, as states are set up.

[gsus4@mander.xyz]

Leaks and hot mics are the best official channels today, lol.

[canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org]

I mean, we'd all figured that out at this point.

[dead_or_alive@lemmy.world]

You must be smoking some good shit.

The US did not allow nukes in Cuba in the 60s. We very nearly had a nuclear war over it. You think the US will roll over and allow a second tier power like France to do it now?

[canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org]

And domestic politics - moreso than interests, even. Kissinger and the "realists" were kind of full of shit because of that.

[takapapatapaka@lemmy.world]

I cannot agree with you more, and i'm very sad to see so much upvotes in favor of nuclear intensification
Bombs do not protect from bombs, guns do not protect from guns

[canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org]

I'd consider supporting it, if there was a serious public discussion on the matter.

The one argument against it - besides the lame "that's violent" or "we couldn't actually need one" - is that saving this one nation isn't worth the increased risk of a nuclear exchange.

[canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org]

When Pearl Harbour was attacked we declared war on Japan before America did ffs… shit is fucked up down there

I had not heard that.

At the point in history their government was working at least as well as ours (for good or evil), so I don't know what conclusion to draw.

[canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org]

there’s also a reason Poland is buying what France is selling

Oooh. What's the story there? Like literally buying equipment, or just suggesting some kind of new defence pact (that Canada should definitely join).

[shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

I'm not an expert in WWII but by that point Canada had been at war in Europe for 4 or 5 years already, and America was trying to stay out of it. It took a day or two for the sleeping giant to wake up, or something to that effect