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What do you believe that most people of your political creed don't?

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  • J [email protected]

    I don't really see why breath is special.

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    Okay, to put it another way:

    Once the child is born, it stops being literally a part of its mother and instead becomes an individual.

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    • L [email protected]

      Ahahaha, "As long as you're respectful one can disagree." And a paragraph later "hey, this guy pointed out trump would be worse for Palestineans that means he is down with genoicde!!!!"

      Could you prove my point much harder?

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      You don't even realize you are further proving my point and you're coming across as even more fake.

      I started respectfully, just as at first, you appeared to be "just another leftist with some different opinion".

      In reality, you're just another liberal apologists that is fine with genocide... And I am absolutely NOT going to be respectful to Zionists once your true colore are evident.

      Your "point" was moot to begin with because you're not leftist. But you are a fake ally ready to backstab minorities

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      • crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyzC [email protected]

        It is always moral if the woman doesn't want the baby. Sometimes you don't even find out you're pregnant until it's 7 weeks or so

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        Is it moral to kill a 2-year old because the parents no longer want it?

        I'm sure that abortion is fine for the first few months. After that, I am unsure either way, but I don't feel strongly enough to wish to see abortion rights curtailed at all. So this is largely academic.

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          It's not about the development of the fetus, it's about the woman's autonomy. So long as it's still inside her it doesn't have any right to live that takes priority over her right to choose.

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          Why do you assert this? Based on what moral framework? Is it morally okay to abandon a baby to the elements after birth, in favour of the autonomy of those who would raise it?

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            Okay, to put it another way:

            Once the child is born, it stops being literally a part of its mother and instead becomes an individual.

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            I suppose to me, one's moral weight is in their mind. If someone has no mind -- such as a brain-dead patient -- then they aren't really a person. Seeing as there's no reason to believe there's an immediate jump in neural development in a baby at the moment of birth, I do not believe it's a special moment for the baby in a moral accounting sense. So I don't think the baby becomes more intrinsically worthy of life at the precise moment it draws its first breath.

            (For the parent, of course, it is a special moment, and in particular new options are available outside of the keep-or-abort dichotomy.)

            As for being an individual, I don't really see how the child's autonomy is relevant. It's still fully dependent on its parents and society and could not function on its own.

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            • cowbee@lemmy.mlC [email protected]

              I don't really know what constitutes a "political creed," really, so I don't know how to answer.

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              Poor choice of words, perhaps. I meant those who generally share your political opinions in other respects. For instance, "anarcho-communist" or "libertarian"

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              • V [email protected]

                A lifetime imprisonment is more inhumane than a death sentence.

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                (If there is enough solid proof ofc. You can't roll back a death penalty)

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                A lifetime imprisonment is more inhumane than a death sentence.

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                Most death row inmates fight for their life all the way until execution. That's proof enough.

                (If there is enough solid proof ofc. You can’t roll back a death penalty)

                How is the verity of the conviction relate to how humane the punishment is?

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                • J [email protected]

                  Ah, you must be a anarcho-monarchist anti-kakistocrat, are famed for their disbelief of bigfoot.

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                  There are some who call me Tim.

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                  • J [email protected]

                    Just wanted to prove that political diversity ain't dead. Remember, don't downvote for disagreements.

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                    Mental health focused communities exascerbate their members' issues

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                    • D [email protected]

                      That doesn’t make sense. You need to start with a correct historical and material analysis before you can approach anything else. Socialism is based on dialectical materialism, not gaining ‘followers’. Leftism is not a religion that aims to have many converts but rather should understand why neocolonialism and other such institutions would deincentivize white people from being leftists in the United States in the first place.

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                      It's all well and good for leftist individuals to achieve that understanding, but how can we effect change without more of the population being swayed to this ideology?

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                      • S [email protected]

                        Seeing as people have pushed out to every tiny corner of the country if it exists they would've found physical remains by now.

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                        No they haven’t. Not even close.

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                        • J [email protected]

                          Poor choice of words, perhaps. I meant those who generally share your political opinions in other respects. For instance, "anarcho-communist" or "libertarian"

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                          Sure, but I do feel that by the time you've picked a niche label, you've filtered out where you disagree.

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                          • S [email protected]

                            I'm centrist so I probably believe in something that offends both sides.

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                            Why are you centrist? To clarify, if you make your political decisions yourself but almost always happen to align with one of the parties, I would consider you in that party rather than a centrist.

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                            • cowbee@lemmy.mlC [email protected]

                              I'm asking what's wrong with money that carries over to LVs. Why is money an issue?

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                              LVs would have their own problems-- if I do work for someone else, can they just create LVs to give to me? Do they get to create however many they want?

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                              • cowbee@lemmy.mlC [email protected]

                                Sure, but I do feel that by the time you've picked a niche label, you've filtered out where you disagree.

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                                I don't think so. Labels only have so much resolving power. They represent people who are broadly aligned in values, but not necessarily on every specific issue.

                                For instance, I think most libertarians have individual dissent from their norm on various topics. It should be easy to find examples in the case of libertarianism, but I believe this applies to other political ideologies too.

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                                  LVs would have their own problems-- if I do work for someone else, can they just create LVs to give to me? Do they get to create however many they want?

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                                  The answer is no in both instances, hence why labor vouchers are only sensible in a centralized and publicly owned and planned economy that has gotten rid of the necessity for small commodity producers.

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                                  • T [email protected]

                                    As someone who was in a supportive relationship with a transgender person for 3 years and who personally struggles associating with my own gender, I never really got into the stating my gender pronouns.

                                    I get why it's done for the times it matters and can do so in a sensitive space, but I get the sense it's usually done as public compliance (like a cis neolib as an email sig), which can lead to shallow support or worse, resentment. What we ultimately need is more genuine contact with people different from ourselves because that helps reduce "othering" a group.

                                    Oh, but I do tend to default to "they" out of old internet habits. Always disliked the assumption all gamers are men.

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                                    because that helps reduce “othering” a group

                                    Which is, ironically, what the pronoun-stating thing was supposed to avoid. Personally I agree that it's not really necessary, and that it actually is a form of compelled speech.

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                                    • J [email protected]

                                      I don't think so. Labels only have so much resolving power. They represent people who are broadly aligned in values, but not necessarily on every specific issue.

                                      For instance, I think most libertarians have individual dissent from their norm on various topics. It should be easy to find examples in the case of libertarianism, but I believe this applies to other political ideologies too.

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                                      "Libertarian" is far more broad than, say, Marxist-Leninist or Anarcho-Communist. When you go from "Marxist" as an umbrella to "Marxist-Leninist" as a category within Marxism, you are generally conforming to that specification's tendencies. At that point of specificity, there are more "solved" questions than unsolved.

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                                      • frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyzF [email protected]

                                        Consider the scenario where you meet a man. You know his name is Bradley (either through mutual friends or whatever), but he introduces himself as Alex. You can call him Bradley, and it would be technically correct, but it would be slightly rude when he has explicitly given his preferred name as Alex.

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                                        That's a false equivalence. A name is a unique identifier while pronouns serve only a mechanical linguistic purpose.

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                                        • flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.comF [email protected]

                                          Yes, if you are aware of someone's preferred pronouns and choose to ignore them.

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                                          It's arguably ignoring their preferences, but how is it misgendering? they/them is gender neutral-- it implies nothing about their gender at all.

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