6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
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My priorities are being able to run Davinci resolve and Steam games. Nobara ticks those boxes while advertising itself as user friendly. I have heard too many stories of people having trouble getting this stuff running on something like Linux mint, so I didn't go in that direction. I need to do more with my computer than just view web sites or write code.
maybe try bazzite? i've found it to be a better experience than nobara and steam games run fine for me, aside from the obvious big titles that have anticheat issues.
they have a guide for davinci resolve, too: https://universal-blue.discourse.group/t/davinci-resolve-setup-guide/1197
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No way I'm switching to Linux yet, multi monitors support with mixed resolutions and vrr on nvidia still kinda sucks. As soon as someone makes that work I'll try it out on a separate partition. Buy last time I tried my other monitors had all kinds of issues when I had games open with gysnc
I'm using multi monitors with mixed resolutions and a very old nvidia card (gtx 670).
The only problem I have is that if I put them to sleep, while autorandr or whatever gets me the resolutions and layout back, the app windows move around like crazy because they all wake up at different times, likely due to a mix of HDMI + DVI + DisplayPort connections.
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It's going to be purchase a new hard drive and then jump to Linux Mint this August.
It's not an experience I am looking forward to (5080S, I do a lot of modding, and enjoy fangames/indie games which do not always play nice with linux) but needs must - the Linux community in general is very friendly, so we'll get through it, even if the first 6 months are rough. I'll keep the dual boot and push the windows partition to 11 if needed by work, that way I can put off rewriting my elderly access database for another few years.
Honestly, Microsoft are committing suicide when it comes to home users. It won't be sudden, but the wheels are turning, all the IT savvy folks are switching people over (already did my aunt's potato, mum's demi-tato is next week). Eventually, a tipping point will be reached and offices will start switching - I hope that day comes before I die of old age!
...all the IT savvy are switching people over...
Totally feels strange because my dad's laptop doesn't have the TPM requirement and he was telling me about how he was talking to the IT guy at his work about possibly switching to Linux just so he can keep his laptop. Absolutely insane because I might not be the only person in my house using it anymore (android not included because I view it as a completely separate entity).
I was telling him that day that I could flash Mint (have the most recent addition on my laptop) to a thumb drive if he was actually wanting to switch over. He's definitely an average computer user, so nothing too special, but it still feels real weird.
Though this will also suck for a while because the tech savvy people helping them switch over will also be running IT for these people who have never used Linux before and most likely have never even used windows CMD either. Cannot wait for stories of people being fed up because their parent/aunt/uncle/friend/whoever looked up how to fix their device and entered the cursed rf command without thinking once about it.
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I've got a few computers - my daily driver is Win10, there's a media player still on 8.1 (only accesses music streams and it's not spotify, it's URLs like https://das-edge15-live365-dal02.cdnstream.com/a98345), the main pihole machine runs vanilla Debian, the backup pihole on a Raspberry Pi also running Debian, and a couple of older laptops also running Debian.
So no, I don't plan to upgrade.
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I would love some advice, personally. How big of an issue is this really? Like....do I really have to care if there aren't system updates anymore? How big of a security risk is it actually?
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Can I play the windows version. Of Microsoft realms?
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The ads for apps, Xbox games, trial versions of Office preinstalled, the minesweeper and solitaire collection that are preinstalled but actually ad supported or non-free, depending on the region spotify/TikTok/Facebook also come preinstalled, "Movies & TV", Bing/MS News...
I think all of those count as bloat. I haven't included Edge because I guess having a browser is a necessity, or copilot/cortana because you said "excluding AI features".
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Steam runs natively and uses proton for game compatibility, similar idea to wine but it's geared for games
It's pretty good. Most games will run, sometimes with a little jiggling to get it to work, although performance isn't quite as good (some games are particularly rough)
I'm technically dual booting, but I haven't launched Windows in almost a year, and there's only been a handful of games I passed on primarily because of support
I have a small laptop that I'm testing this stuff out on before I put together a new computer from parts I ordered before the tariffs took effect.
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But probably Windows will disable the possibillity to manipulate on kernel level either in the future.
Sort of, right?
We know Windows will continue cracking down on kernel module adds, since the Crowd strike disaster.
But I figure most anti-cheat will just shift to non-kernel and keep working.
Of course, at that point most anti-cheat of will then work under Proton, on Linux, too.
Which was maybe your point.
Okay, I don't think I added anything for you, but I'll leave this in case it helps someone reading along with us.
Watching you reason this out was fun
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Man, I really tried today to get Linux on my Framework laptop.
I can't believe how goddamn frustrating the experience has been, and I've dabbled in Linux for decades.
I try Mint. Install as a dual boot... Installation done. Reboot. Straight into Windows. Check partitions and nothing has changed.
Try again. All seems fine. Boot. Some error screen that won't let me get into Mint.
Do this like four more times with no luck.
Tried Ubuntu. No easy way to install as a dual boot unless I want to mess around with custom paritions. Also, GNOME sucks ass, but Ubuntu seems way more polished than Mint.
I did get mint on a mini PC I have running through my TV. But audio wasn't working, so that took a while to sort out. And the onscreen keyboard does nothing on the lock screen. So unpolished, and I have no idea why it's recommended "for beginners" when it feels unfinished.
With windows, there's no messing around. Everything just works. And I fucking hate that I feel forced to choose a miserable, hacky, terminal-based experience with countless hours of installing shit through commands... Or a smooth, reliable, easy one with bloatware and spying on the backend. Goddammit!
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I can't switch to Linux due to software requirements for work. On my personal computer I'm using Xubuntu for well over a decade, I didn't like the unity window manager of Ubuntu. I heard they changed to something else by now, but I can't be bothered to switch.
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Well my PC can't do windows 11, and upgrading is now impossible thanks to a certain someone. So yeah...
My 15 year old desktop also "couldn't do windows 11", but you can bypass whatever bullshit limitations Microsoft puts on the installation process. That computer has been running 11 for several years now without any issues at all. Rock solid.
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I'm a professional graphic designer that dumped Adobe years back and I've been able to keep working using open source design applications.
I mean, sure you can do this, but you have to also sympathize with the folks that have years if not decades of experience in a program/suite, and that experience is what they use to market themselves. Like, in a perfect world, everyone could make the switch to FOSS alternatives, but it's not so cut and dry for those who can't spend up to years of their personal time to just get back to being as efficient as they were with the other, just to not support a scummy company. I've been moving pretty much entirely over to FOSS for everything I do, but it's been years in the making, and substantial effort on my part. And I have it easy, since I work in software development. We in the FOSS community can't expect all others to do the same.
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SteamOS isn't going to be the "Windows killer" people think it'll be. I'm a massive Valve and Steam fan but SteamOS isn't any better than any of the other major distros when it comes to gaming.
I think it'll feel like pop os. Pretty much set up for gaming right out of the box, but anything deeper and you're forced to touch the terminal. What I do think it has going for it however is the publicity of Steam, plus a promise on Steam's part to continue to dump a bunch of resources in to making it a better experience. I'm not expecting mass migrations, but it will likely be what gets all the folks on the fence to switch over, at least among gamers
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The inability to easily turn off copilot and the hiding setting between 3 different menus was the thing that finally did me in. I know you can turn copilot off but I didn't like the idea that Microsoft could "accidentally" re enable their spyware on my system. To be clear I am not being hyperbolic I really do think that recall and copilot are spyware that is just Microsoft approved. And then there is one drive just being pain in the ass constantly.
Those all sound shitty - granted, I'm pretty sure I don't have Copilot on my system, but maybe it didn't ask me during the upgrade? Either way - my original point still stands: all of these seem just as bad as Win10 (to me, a person who barely used either).
Don't get me wrong, I'm really glad people are joining us on the Linux bandwagon, it just seems like the reasons for making the switch are almost arbitrary. Another way of putting it would be: "This is what finally pushed you over? 'Copilot'?"
Anyway, regardless, I'm happy that people are making better choices - regardless of the reasons for doing so!
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Obviously Linux is the correct choice but I fear most will simply continue to suck it up and update to W11.
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Where's that steam os release
If you want SteamOS there are plenty of options that are effectively the exact same thing but with a different name.
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Only semi-related: Why do they always show pictures of Gates when he hasn't been involved in MS in a long time? Why never Satya Nadella?
Optics or marketing, it's the same reason LLMs are all called AI.
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Linux doesn't support VR.
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Switch to Linux. As a big-time gamer, I did it last year and it’s been fantastic. Only issue is if you main games with root kit anticheat…but with enough momentum in Linux direction, game studios will be forced to abandon those dubious detection methods anyway.
The way I see the root kit anticheat situation is that because Valve has their own Linux based OS, these companies making anticheat are probably going to end up tailoring it to whatever kernel Valve (or whatever the biggest/most widely used distro made by a large game corporation) uses to ensure people aren't cheating.
With a kernel that can be swapped out for another with varying degrees of difficulty, why wouldn't they just tailor their work to whatever the biggest corporate game company supporter of Linux is using? If SteamOS (or any other distro made by maybe someone like EA, heaven forbid) ends up becoming what these anticheat devs see as the defacto Linux distro for gaming, I guarantee they'll probably just focus all their efforts on making sure SteamOS (or whatever it ends up being) works as best they can and hanging out everyone else to dry.
A real "Wanna run the latest CoD (or something similar) on your device? Make sure you use the kernel we say you have to use!" kinda situation is what I foresee happening.
There's also an OpenBSD song with a few lines of lyrics that I think could sum up what could (and sadly most likely will) happen, in metaphorical Odyssey kind of way:
Corporate monsters, many closing passages\ Tempting harpies\ 13 years of treachery
Though it's definitely going to be more than 13 years.
