Which instances have the most diverse points of view?

[olgaabi@lemmy.ml]

> Let's imagine China arming and supporting Mexico's opposition parties that align with China.

if that happend I'd support mexico in it's efforts to ally itself with china (if that's what the mexican people want)

> U.S would go into a fit and invade Mexico instantly. Same has been happening in Ukraine for a decade before the war started.

you're just proving my point here, Russia is just as bad as the US

> You need to also take in account that Russia has been invaded countless times from western powers.

russia in it's current form hasn't been invaded, except if you count ukraine, but russia invaded ukraine first

> Russia's geography is also mostly flat plains, making it easy to invade Moscow from the west. Historical context need to be taken to account.

so I can shoot someone because they have an advantage and COULD hurt me?

[olgaabi@lemmy.ml]

here, read the chapter criticism and tell me everything I'm wrong about
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-African_relations

[olgaabi@lemmy.ml]

This post did not contain any content.

[sturgiesyrfase@lemmy.ml]

I have an alt on .ca, I find there's a pretty good mix of beliefs there. And a fair number less tankies than where this alt I'm on is....

[olgaabi@lemmy.ml]

> So, what you're actually saying you'd rather live under capitalism because it's not impacting your freedom

that's wrong, I belive that I have more freedom in (unregulated) capitalism that's not state backed, than in a one party system without democratic principles

> and you don't care about others.

that's not true, I want others to be as free as I am

> Meanwhile, claiming that western Germany was economically stronger than the USSR is another example of you being divorced from reality.

you're literally making this up, I sayed that western germany was ALMOST as economicaly strong as the entire ussr, which is true

> It's the same sort of logic people applied to modern Russia comparing its GDP to Italy. Now, it turns out Russian industrial production is higher than all of the west combined.

first source I found: https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Russia/United-States/Industry

this says something completely different

> This is how capitalism rots people brains, they start thinking imaginary numbers are more important than material reality.

so at first: you were wrong, but you also were double wrong, because even if russia did produce more than the US there's still the question of what to be made and for whom, russia probably produces more war assets rn, and that isn't necessarily a good thing, since they now can produce less of stuff the people actually need (that statement itself wouldn't be true if the russian economy was growing and they were exporting their war assets, but the opposite is the case, they produce the war assets to burn them on the battlefield and their economy also isn't looking good)

[yogthos@lemmy.ml]

that’s wrong, I belive that I have more freedom in (unregulated) capitalism that’s not state backed, than in a one party system without democratic principles

Yet, you do not believe in effective ways of organizing and actually challenging the system. So, really you believe in perpetuating the system while paying lip service to the idea of change.

that’s not true, I want others to be as free as I am

You clearly don't since you reject practical methods that have been proven that free people from capitalism.

you’re literally making this up, I sayed that western germany was ALMOST as economicaly strong as the entire ussr, which is true

It's not true, and never has been true in any meaningful sense.

this says something completely different

and yet https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/10/politics/russia-artillery-shell-production-us-europe-ukraine/index.html

that statement itself wouldn’t be true if the russian economy was growing and they were exporting their war assets, but the opposite is the case, they produce the war assets to burn them on the battlefield and their economy also isn’t looking good

Meanwhile in the real world, Russian economy is booming, and the World Bank just reclassified Russia as a high income country https://blogs.worldbank.org/en/opendata/world-bank-country-classifications-by-income-level-for-2024-2025

The IMF forecasts that Russian economy is set to grow faster than all the western economies https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/17/russia-forecast-to-grow-faster-than-advanced-economies-in-2024-imf.html

Thanks for providing further evidence of you being utterly divorced from reality.

[yogthos@lemmy.ml]

The fact that you rely on wikipedia as really does explain a lot about you.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3745021
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2021/02/china-debt-trap-diplomacy/617953/
https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2023/11/06/sri-lankas-debt-trap-and-the-vultures/
https://theconversation.com/china-and-africa-ethiopia-case-study-debunks-investment-myths-177098

[braininabox@lemmy.ml]

I belive that I have more freedom in (unregulated) capitalism that’s not state backed

All capitalism is state backed, by definition.

[olgaabi@lemmy.ml]

uhm nope it isn't, in fact a lot of economists are against the state (eg: ludwig van mises)

also everything is bad when state backed imo, even communism

or as I tend to say:"I like my communism the same way I like my toilet: without the state watching over it"

[cowbee@lemmy.ml]

I don't think using the guy who thought economic planning was impossible because there's no way an individual person can plan an entire economy by themselves is a good representation of a valid viewpoint. Like, Mises had a comedically awful conception of Socialist economics from square one.

As for Communism, the State can only be abolished fully when class antagonisms are abolished, and such a status can only occur when everyone across the globe equally owns all property across the globe (or as close to that as is possible). Until then, however, there will be classes, and thus a state, so you can't just get rid of the state outright unless you wish to return to hunter-gatherer style economics, or if you are okay with classes in your conception of Communism by turning everyone into petite bourgeoisie, equal owners but within their own communes exclusively.

[liyunxiao@sh.itjust.works]

They try to be anarchists but they're mostly from western countries so they have permanent programming they refuse to shake off (i.e. calling anyone that doesn't think eurocentric anarchism is the only real left wing ideology a tankie.). Compared to .world's Hillary Clinton though they're like Marx.