Which instances have the most diverse points of view?
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No problem! If you're looking for right-wing viewpoints, you can already see them from a Lemmy.world account, they usually hang out either on Lemmy.world or sh.itjust.works, it's more the Leftists that Lemmy.world censors from your view.
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Closest I can think of is Hexbear's News Megathread, but it isn't really for debate, just analysis of current events. Is there a comm like that elsewhere?
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The only important thing, really, is that the instance you choose doesn't defederate with other instances for political reasons (except being literal Nazi instances). I find that lemm.ee users have a good mix of political expression ranging from Marxists to Moderate Conservatives. An account there, on lemmy.zip, or lemmy.ml is probably your best bet.
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Yep, as long as you don't visit "local" and no instances are defederated, you simply get the whole fediverse, there isn't any other experience available at that point.
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This is kind of the derision that I'm talking about. (I am assuming that you are talking about the right wing). Whilst there is some truth to it, you disagreeing with them doesn't mean that it isn't interesting, or worthy of discussion or debate.
I do agree that hate speech should be banned and that isn't what I'm interested in.
I'm not interested in the MAGA point of view per se, I'm interested in a diverse spectrum of opinions that reflect a real cross section of society, where undoubtedly some of them will be MAGA people.
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.world is very liberal, it isn't really accurate to call it "left leaning." You aren't going to find many MAGA people on the fediverse.
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In the UK there is some similarity between liberal and left wing ideas, despite them being distinct political groups. Liberalism was originally seen as very left wing, a lot of people are now arguing that there is more in common with right wing politics, small state and such.
I'd say my experience here has been much more left wing than liberal though, just my opinion.
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The issue is that you can't have discussion or debate with:
- statements in bad faith
- statements not based on reality (conspiracy theories/misinformation/"alternative facts"
So the issue is once you have removed those, you aren't left with many people holding a very broad spectrum of viewpoints outside of niche topics (Vi vs Emacs).
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Liberalism was only "left" when Capitalism was progressive, which was only true in comparison to Monarchism and Feudalism. Liberalism is a firmly Capitalist ideology, while Socialism is leftist.
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Do people do good, spirited debates anymore? Most of what I see would be more akin to wrestling a pig.
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Debating online is largely useless for convincing the other party. Sometimes onlookers learn, but if it's a debate neither party usually concedes. Education works, ie someone asking for more information, but that's about it.
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This.
The leftist instance have a good mix of leftist and liberals that are brave enough to do what they're told not to do.
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i agree with this
i started a free speech community and theres no downvoting allowed which encourages healthy arguing instead of comments just getting buried in downvotes or removed
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I'm about to say the same thing differently.
Eliminating .world filters the majority of the propaganda and bad faith users. What remains is leftist because once we pierce through the propaganda and bad faith, we all agree that left is human.
We've three core groups: social democrats, authoritarian socialists & communists, and libertarian socialists & communists. Each focuses on a different part of our timeline. Respectively: the present, the means to overcome the human paradigm, and the ideal solution as we understand it.
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Well, one other thing is that instances will only fetch content from communities that at least one instance member is subscribed to. Every instance will have a slightly different selection of content because of what communities the existing members have subscribed to (and larger instances will typically have a broader selection of content, because they have more users).
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and Anarchist, in the case of Hexbear
more like right wing trolls
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Same goes for countries. Big ones cause problems IMO
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It's extremely big headed to think that only the people who agree with you are arguing honestly and have not based their arguments on any incorrect information.
I'm here to learn and grow, not to circle jerk with my friends about how right we are.
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db0 is federated with world hexbear beehaw ml and many others.
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Why would a supposed group of right-wingers host Mutual Aid communities to help those in need, reading groups for Leftist theory from Marx to Lenin to Goldman and even feminist thinkers like Bell Hooks and trans activists like Leslie Feinberg, maintain millitantly defensive moderation principles to protect their large and active trans userbase, and do so for years without ever federating, and only remaining selectively federated with other instances?
Nobody has ever managed to answer that question any time they make that claim.