Which instances have the most diverse points of view?

[cowbee@lemmy.ml]

.world is very liberal, it isn't really accurate to call it "left leaning." You aren't going to find many MAGA people on the fediverse.

[13esq@lemmy.world]

In the UK there is some similarity between liberal and left wing ideas, despite them being distinct political groups. Liberalism was originally seen as very left wing, a lot of people are now arguing that there is more in common with right wing politics, small state and such.

I'd say my experience here has been much more left wing than liberal though, just my opinion.

[timlovestech@badatbeing.social]

The issue is that you can't have discussion or debate with:

1. statements in bad faith
2. statements not based on reality (conspiracy theories/misinformation/"alternative facts"

So the issue is once you have removed those, you aren't left with many people holding a very broad spectrum of viewpoints outside of niche topics (Vi vs Emacs).

[cowbee@lemmy.ml]

Liberalism was only "left" when Capitalism was progressive, which was only true in comparison to Monarchism and Feudalism. Liberalism is a firmly Capitalist ideology, while Socialism is leftist.

[nabdad@lemmy.world]

Do people do good, spirited debates anymore? Most of what I see would be more akin to wrestling a pig.

[cowbee@lemmy.ml]

Debating online is largely useless for convincing the other party. Sometimes onlookers learn, but if it's a debate neither party usually concedes. Education works, ie someone asking for more information, but that's about it.

[eldavi@lemmy.ml]

This.

The leftist instance have a good mix of leftist and liberals that are brave enough to do what they're told not to do.

[chadmctruth@lemmy.world]

i agree with this

i started a free speech community and theres no downvoting allowed which encourages healthy arguing instead of comments just getting buried in downvotes or removed

[readmorebooks@lemmy.zip]

I'm about to say the same thing differently.

Eliminating .world filters the majority of the propaganda and bad faith users. What remains is leftist because once we pierce through the propaganda and bad faith, we all agree that left is human.

We've three core groups: social democrats, authoritarian socialists & communists, and libertarian socialists & communists. Each focuses on a different part of our timeline. Respectively: the present, the means to overcome the human paradigm, and the ideal solution as we understand it.

[drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml]

Well, one other thing is that instances will only fetch content from communities that at least one instance member is subscribed to. Every instance will have a slightly different selection of content because of what communities the existing members have subscribed to (and larger instances will typically have a broader selection of content, because they have more users).

[isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de]

and Anarchist, in the case of Hexbear

more like right wing trolls

[hootinnhollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Same goes for countries. Big ones cause problems IMO

[13esq@lemmy.world]

It's extremely big headed to think that only the people who agree with you are arguing honestly and have not based their arguments on any incorrect information.

I'm here to learn and grow, not to circle jerk with my friends about how right we are.

[hootinnhollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

db0 is federated with world hexbear beehaw ml and many others.

[cowbee@lemmy.ml]

Why would a supposed group of right-wingers host Mutual Aid communities to help those in need, reading groups for Leftist theory from Marx to Lenin to Goldman and even feminist thinkers like Bell Hooks and trans activists like Leslie Feinberg, maintain millitantly defensive moderation principles to protect their large and active trans userbase, and do so for years without ever federating, and only remaining selectively federated with other instances?

Nobody has ever managed to answer that question any time they make that claim.

[trickdacy@lemmy.world]

It seems like you don't realize that the world is extremely polarized. It's not just Lemmy.

[cowbee@lemmy.ml]

Not with Lemmygrad, though, so if their goal is to be as broad as possible dbzer0 doesn't cut it.

[yogthos@lemmy.ml]

A better question is which instances have dominant points of view that actually align with the material reality we inhabit. Difference of opinion is only valuable when the opinion is grounded in factual understanding of the real world. It's valuable to have different views and interpretation of the facts, but if a view is divorced from reality then it's just noise.

[karmmah@lemmy.world]

The point of the fediverse is to give people the option to create communities by themselves and not be subject to the ruling of one central allmighty entity. If someone does not like one community they have the chance to create their own with their own rules. This means people can decide for themselves what content they want in their community.
However people coming from traditional social media seem to mistake this kind of freedom with not needing to follow any rules but that's not how it works.

[diva@lemmy.ml]

Gotta second this, it's a little hard to find from a separate instance- you need to go to /c/[email protected] and pick it from the pinned threads