Which instances have the most diverse points of view?

[13esq@lemmy.world]

It's extremely big headed to think that only the people who agree with you are arguing honestly and have not based their arguments on any incorrect information.

I'm here to learn and grow, not to circle jerk with my friends about how right we are.

[hootinnhollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

db0 is federated with world hexbear beehaw ml and many others.

[cowbee@lemmy.ml]

Why would a supposed group of right-wingers host Mutual Aid communities to help those in need, reading groups for Leftist theory from Marx to Lenin to Goldman and even feminist thinkers like Bell Hooks and trans activists like Leslie Feinberg, maintain millitantly defensive moderation principles to protect their large and active trans userbase, and do so for years without ever federating, and only remaining selectively federated with other instances?

Nobody has ever managed to answer that question any time they make that claim.

[trickdacy@lemmy.world]

It seems like you don't realize that the world is extremely polarized. It's not just Lemmy.

[cowbee@lemmy.ml]

Not with Lemmygrad, though, so if their goal is to be as broad as possible dbzer0 doesn't cut it.

[yogthos@lemmy.ml]

A better question is which instances have dominant points of view that actually align with the material reality we inhabit. Difference of opinion is only valuable when the opinion is grounded in factual understanding of the real world. It's valuable to have different views and interpretation of the facts, but if a view is divorced from reality then it's just noise.

[karmmah@lemmy.world]

The point of the fediverse is to give people the option to create communities by themselves and not be subject to the ruling of one central allmighty entity. If someone does not like one community they have the chance to create their own with their own rules. This means people can decide for themselves what content they want in their community.
However people coming from traditional social media seem to mistake this kind of freedom with not needing to follow any rules but that's not how it works.

[diva@lemmy.ml]

Gotta second this, it's a little hard to find from a separate instance- you need to go to /c/[email protected] and pick it from the pinned threads

[cowbee@lemmy.ml]

The mega access was one of the biggest factors in making a Hexbear account for me, to be honest. A lot of great info in them (plus I like the casual chatting format of the general mega when I don't want to make a full post).

[timlovestech@badatbeing.social]

I don't think it's always a difficult task to tell if someone is arguing in bad faith or not, and someone basing their argument on incorrect information is not that (and I assume you know that). So trying to say that I see a mere disagreement on a topic the same as one made in bad faith sounds like you're trying to conflate the two, making it a bad faith argument.

But if pretending a 'difference of opinion = bad faith argument' is what you're looking for I guess good luck. That is what I would call a "circle jerk", but to each their own. Not sure how that type of discussion with no basis in reality can help anyone to "learn and grow" though.

[olgaabi@lemmy.ml]

just like vanguardism

[olgaabi@lemmy.ml]

never seen an anarchist on hexbear tbh, but I've been alwaus banned pretty fast for stating my opinions on the state and the ukraine war

[olgaabi@lemmy.ml]

if you're looking for an instance that won't ban you based on your political belives check out lemmy.blahaj.zone

[cowbee@lemmy.ml]

I've seen many, and Anarchist theory is linked and discussed frequently. Sectarianism is banned, so you haven't likely seen Anarchists getting into fights with Marxists. As for the Ukranian war, Hexbear overall adopts the viewpoint of Lenin's analysis of Imperialism as a special stage in Capitalist development, including the Anarchists, so you likely disagreed on those grounds.

[cowbee@lemmy.ml]

Can you elaborate?

[cowbee@lemmy.ml]

Blahaj takes an openly anti-Marxist stance, at minimum.

[olgaabi@lemmy.ml]

I don't like the state and like the idea of a vanguard party even less and I belive that user to be vanguardist

[yogthos@lemmy.ml]

thank you for providing an example of dialogue that's detached from reality

[dawnglider@lemmy.ml]

Perhaps surprisingly when it comes to breaking the echo chamber and having diverse political points of view and approaches (on subjects like identity politics, intersectionality, geo politics, organization building, strategy...etc) I'd say even ML circles have a lot more of that than just vaguely leftist safe liberal stances (at the very least they might have novel ideas and no orange man bad meme).

If you want more diversity of opinions you can expand in different directions, but I hardly see what good would be a place that has both fascists and anti-fascists for example and most of us are tired of picking internet fights. I suppose as long as you're aware of which kind of discussion you've more tolerance for you're good, but whether it's tolerance for the occasional black crime rate statistic or an esoteric graph of the falling rate of profit, you're not likely to find a space that has both.

In general I'd go with Cowbee's recommendations though (for something that's still obviously fairly leftwing)

[olgaabi@lemmy.ml]

I don't disagree that the us is imperialist, I'm just saying that it's also imperialist to invade your neighbors to restore the russian empires western border and increase your sphere of influence