Which instances have the most diverse points of view?
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You could just go to another site that is more Trump friendly, such as Reddit, Twitter, Truth Social, or Stormfront.
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That’s a good idea!
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I think you are going to have a hard time finding a place to talk with a group that overall deals in bad faith arguments and hate speech. They also tend to silo themselves off to their own platforms over concerns that their hate speech gets them moderated (because Free Speech != does not mean speech without consequences or needs to be tolerated by everyone).
If you really want to see the MAGA "point of view" you are probably better off going to them on Truth Social, Gab, 4chan, The_Donald, etc.
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Thanks for this. Will definitely check out those instances.
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No problem! If you're looking for right-wing viewpoints, you can already see them from a Lemmy.world account, they usually hang out either on Lemmy.world or sh.itjust.works, it's more the Leftists that Lemmy.world censors from your view.
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Closest I can think of is Hexbear's News Megathread, but it isn't really for debate, just analysis of current events. Is there a comm like that elsewhere?
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The only important thing, really, is that the instance you choose doesn't defederate with other instances for political reasons (except being literal Nazi instances). I find that lemm.ee users have a good mix of political expression ranging from Marxists to Moderate Conservatives. An account there, on lemmy.zip, or lemmy.ml is probably your best bet.
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Yep, as long as you don't visit "local" and no instances are defederated, you simply get the whole fediverse, there isn't any other experience available at that point.
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This is kind of the derision that I'm talking about. (I am assuming that you are talking about the right wing). Whilst there is some truth to it, you disagreeing with them doesn't mean that it isn't interesting, or worthy of discussion or debate.
I do agree that hate speech should be banned and that isn't what I'm interested in.
I'm not interested in the MAGA point of view per se, I'm interested in a diverse spectrum of opinions that reflect a real cross section of society, where undoubtedly some of them will be MAGA people.
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.world is very liberal, it isn't really accurate to call it "left leaning." You aren't going to find many MAGA people on the fediverse.
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In the UK there is some similarity between liberal and left wing ideas, despite them being distinct political groups. Liberalism was originally seen as very left wing, a lot of people are now arguing that there is more in common with right wing politics, small state and such.
I'd say my experience here has been much more left wing than liberal though, just my opinion.
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The issue is that you can't have discussion or debate with:
- statements in bad faith
- statements not based on reality (conspiracy theories/misinformation/"alternative facts"
So the issue is once you have removed those, you aren't left with many people holding a very broad spectrum of viewpoints outside of niche topics (Vi vs Emacs).
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Liberalism was only "left" when Capitalism was progressive, which was only true in comparison to Monarchism and Feudalism. Liberalism is a firmly Capitalist ideology, while Socialism is leftist.
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Debating online is largely useless for convincing the other party. Sometimes onlookers learn, but if it's a debate neither party usually concedes. Education works, ie someone asking for more information, but that's about it.
