Why more young men in Germany are turning to the far-right
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I hope you're from Quebec
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I want to add a third thing to this list:
- Feeling left behind by mainstream political parties.
The parties in power surely pay lip service to the issues that concern the young but very rarely do they actually do anything about it.
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You aren’t being funny here. You are making a sexist claim and that isn’t funny.
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Funny that this somehow was obvious for me since childhood. One of the perks of being autistic is that reading the same mainstream narrative texts you understand them differently.
The world loves those enforcing rules, because they have to be strong for that, and the world loves those breaking rules, because if today they are making a challenge, tomorrow they might become even stronger. Humans follow strength. So a new challenger of existing order is loved, a yesterday's challenger who is still not a triumphant is hated.
Also the world wants to use those with integrity, but hang out with those without integrity. The former are reliable, and with the latter you can make any deal.
No conclusion other than a dagger is good for the one holding it and evil for the one lacking it when needed.
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America has the second or third worst fascist problem. Currently Russia and Hungary have them beat.
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You aren’t being funny here.
Good thing I specifically said I wasn't trying to be funny then.
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I think there are obviously a lot of reasons this is happening, we all know it’s not so simple a thing to explain.
But I think it can mostly just be boiled down to general discontent—there is a feeling all over the world that is vague and seemingly in everyone. It’s disenfranchisement. It’s a system that doesn’t prioritize us or even consider us. We serve the system, and the exploitation for the benefit of the global system has become so acute that it’s hitting everyone.
But people just cannot conceive of big problems like this. It always has to be something specific, so their more personal fears and biases are being exploited by the most advanced conditioning and manipulation system ever created.
We are mico-conditioned. We are exploited in new and exciting and previously unthinkable ways. We are so minutely controlled that we aren’t even in control of our own feelings most of the time. We have our moods changed for companies to profit or to weaken us to whatever it is their product “fixes.”
We can dig down into so much minutiae about the different things, but that’s like dividing Infinity over and over and over as Infinitum. But we need to stop subdividing and sub-subdividing because that only serves to divide us—which is exactly the tactic used to exploit our vague anger. We need to instead zoom way out and see that this system is taking us down with the world it’s destroying. We all feel it, we all feel the system breaking down. But that uneasiness is given a face and a name in immigrants, or whatever is helpful.
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Not having to fight an uphill battle against a small, but vocal minority of women pushing young men into the false comfort of adversarial relations (and its gurus) would help a lot. Don't actively do damage, is all I'm asking from the female side here. Men didn't invent, say, the ick trend. I can roll my eyes at it, thirty years younger me didn't have that luxury, and getting young boys to ignore it is more involved than just saying "they're stupid, self-absorbed and immature". Shit can do psychological damage, self-image issues, that need healing. The gist is men by and large aren't built for psychological warfare and lots of women have no idea what kind of strays they're firing.
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I see. It's women's fault that the men who control the media can't teach other men how to be men.
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Women are antivaxx at much higher rates. Women are much more likely to accept “alternative/fake medicine” than men. Women are more likely to ascribe to beliefs in astrology than men. Would any of this mean that women are less capable of rational thought or might there be something else going on for why these appeal more to women than men? Were I to take sexist logic to heart the conclusion would be that women are dumber than men yet that’s simply not true. This there is likely a different reason why these forms of bullshit appeal to women. I would suggest that it is because these forms of woo are targeted at women much like fascism inherently targets men as their audience.
Fascism relies on traditional gender roles and that has less appeal to women who would lose rights and power compared to men who would theoretically gain power. It’s less “there’s something wrong with the men” and more that fascism itself is designed to appeal to men.
It helps nothing and no one to engage in misogyny or misandry.
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Men control women doing tiktoks? Even if a shady cabal of men sits at tiktok HQ algorithmically pushing ick content (why?), it needs women to produce it in the first place.
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Ah, I see. "Women doing tiktoks" control the men who control virtually all of the media which is why they can't teach other men how to be men.
It all makes sense when you put it that way.
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It's you who's talking about "all media". I'm talking about one specific example "ick tiktoks", stuff I have to deal with in martial arts classes, because freshly-minted teens get confused as fuck about it.
Who are these men that are flooding tiktok with ick content? Making my job harder?
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The person I was talking to before you butted in. Literally.
You apparently wished to change the subject without announcing you were doing so.
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I wouldn't say it's a shift. Only a subset of media is relevant when it comes to boys. I didn't pull those ick tiktoks out of my hat as a "gotcha" example, this is the type of problematic media that I have to deal with because that's what my students are exposed to. They're not watching linear TV so that doesn't matter, they're not reading newspapers so those don't matter, the vast majority of the established news media sphere doesn't matter and Hollywood is well-balanced by anime, not many issues there. It's fiction in the first place which gets perceived differently, the veracity of tiktok trends can be much harder to asses for teens. Rambo is badass because it's an action flick, they understand that it's a fantasy. That ick stuff? They take it at face value, on a deep level.
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It also helps nothing and no one to "both sides" this conversation every time it starts. Astrology and homeopathy doesn't even begin to fucking compare with nazism. Also, why do you call out astrology but not christianity? One is a dumb little thing involving sky magic that is mostly harmless and the other is also a dumb thing involving sky magic but the followers of that dumb thing are actually very dangerous and harmful to a lot of people that have to grow up with them. Haven't met too many female priests in my life either.
Fascism relies on traditional gender roles and that has less appeal to women who would lose rights and power compared to men who would theoretically gain power. It’s less “there’s something wrong with the men” and more that fascism itself is designed to appeal to men.
Oh, is it? So what you're telling me is that fascism appeals to men more than women because men don't give as much of a shit about other people's rights? Fascinating. Totally means there's nothing wrong with men that needs addressing or changing. Sure.
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I'm pretty sure they're not watching feminists on TikTok either. Maybe the weird boys who go to your martial arts classes do. The rest of them watch whoever they've moved on to since Andrew Tate.
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FUD: increase fear, uncertainty, and doubt by spreading misinformation propaganda and undermining independent, fact based journalism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt
It's the same tactic far right conservatives used against popular public progressive movements like the enlightenment, the hippies, corporate monopolies like IBM and Microsoft, etc to divide the working class against themselves.
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Can we please talk about how there is no active real left wing in any country?
Like sure the right wins when there is no real opposition.
I keep feeling like I've failed miserably as a person for not doing more. And I have no idea what should I be doing.
