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What do you think happened to that guy, by the way?

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What do you think happened to all the other 300 murdered protesters that day? Get the fuck out of here with your false naivety.

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Adrian as reprehensible as he might be is only circulating data that's been leaked from Chinese Police databases full of thousands of pictures of Uyghurs in concentration camps.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/85qihtvw6e/the-faces-from-chinas-uyghur-detention-camps

What Qiao Collective states is in line with the UN report and what the visitors China has invited from the Middle East to investigate back up.

you can't have it both ways. if you wanna be a tankie at least don't rely on western alligned monarchies to support your alternative facts.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/china-uyghurs-condemn-islamic-scholar-propaganda-trip-xinjiang

the irony isn't lost on me that you're basing your genocide denialism on paid propaganda from government clerics going on supervised tours, who also support Israel in their genocide of Palestinians. also the irony that all tankies engaging in anti-Uyghur genocide denialism are simply regurgitating 9/11 "terrorist" propaganda but they like it this time because China lightly repackaged it, put a red bow on top and made it their official policy.

I support justice for Uyghurs because I follow Uyghur activists and academics, I couldn't give a shit about Zenz. Unlike you, we don't have a daddy fetish where we have to blindly follow a great leader.

there's no such thing as socialist states. that's just stalinist "communism in one country" fascist bs

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I linked a video, because we know he's fine. He talks to the tank driver after climbing up on the tank, then leaves. I don't think a picture of the PLA showing patience after leaving the square does much for your point.

Yes, hundreds of protestors were killed, PLA officers lynched and burned alive, and more. Nobody denies that. However, showing a dude who we know lived is not the own you think it is, nor does it say anything about US Imperialism being "nicer." The US at the time was of course preparing for the Gulf War, which would set the stage for US Imperialism to result in 1 million Iraqi deaths under false pretenses of WMDs.

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I think you need a hug.

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As if it wasn't like that with USA too

I don't think it'll be as bad as mentioned

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Funny that you link the BBC, given their historical willingness to lie on the subject and continue to report the ludicrous 10,000 dead at Tian'anmen figure that was the sole claim of a British diplomat that fled the square before the PLA arrived, and later was confirmed to have been a fabrication. Hundreds died that day, maybe low thousands, not 10,000, yet the BBC both knows that and reports otherwise. BBC also got caught doctoring images to make China seem "depressing" that they swapped back after getting called out.

Either way, Zenz is a known liar, works for the "Victims of Communism" propaganda outlet, and was commisioned by the BBC to fight China, which he believes is the "Anti-Christ." Moreover, he misrepresents numbers, such as 8% new IUD rates as 80% new IUD rates, to give an idea of forced steralization that doesn't exist.

As for Socialism, I have no genuine clue what you mean by there not being able to be a Socialist state. Marx and Engels both believed in the necessity of a state until global communism is achieved and all property is collectivized, at which point there are no classes and thus no state, only administration.

You don't support Uyghurs, if you did you'd actually care enough to look into your sources.

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Why is it funny to satarize a Chinese man as a yellow bear?

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So everyone can read and laugh:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Winnie-the-Pooh_in_China

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Gotcha, depicting chinese people as yellow is funny to you.

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Real talk, I take comfort in knowing that the high tech future we were promised at the turn of the millennium isn't dead after all, it's just happening in China

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In many ways, China already has surpassed the US.

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For sure. However, the PRC is still a developing countrt, while the US is a declining Empire. The US has farther to fall and China further to rise, especially in the next 1-2 decades.

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Heh, I think you've just pissed off Welsh/Irish/Scottish people with that sentiment.

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China still has a concentration camp and invaded Tibet. If they keep on doing what they're used to, it will still be bad.

They also support dictatorships like North Korea, and that's also not a good look.

Then there's the whole silencing of Hong Kong, and I don't now enough to say what happened there, so I won't. Just know something did.

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The re-education program in Xinjiang seems to have ended already and fulfilled its stated purpose. Tibet had slavery and was semi-feudalist, while the Dalai Lama owned slaves and was working with the CIA. Life expectancy dramatically improved along with many other metrics like literacy rates once the PLA ended slavery and feudalism. For the DPRK, they maintain trade relations with them, the most sanctioned country on the planet and one of the most heavily bombed. HK was a British Colony to be returned to the PRC, and now most Hong Kong residents would rather be integrated with the Chinese economy.

I think you need to investigate more of these topics if you're going to list them off as points.

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Still hoping for that future that's borderless and red and queer and bold.

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yeah it’s censored because of racism, that’s an amazingly insightful and smart take! you sure showed that dirty racist what-for, i bet they’ll think twice before posting a picture of a cartoon next time. you’re a really good spokesperson for your political beliefs, and you DEFINITELY aren’t coming across like a child right now!

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Do you want to enlighten me about what's funny about depicting a Chinese man as a yellow cartoon bear? Why not a panda? Why specifically a yellow bear?

Why do you think it's censored to begin with?

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Tbh, I was shocked. Much as I'm sympathetic towards China, but I still usually look at it through a lens of realpolitik, like, "Of course they're vying for dominance like everyone else, but at least they're doing it through economic development instead of wars, and it's better if there are two major powers instead of one." Maybe that cynical perspective is more realistic, and maybe XHS users aren't a representative sample of all Chinese people, but still, the fact that so many of the replies were so hopeful and internationalist was genuinely moving to me.

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