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Is the number of Lemmy users increasing?

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  • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

    https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/stats

    Currently trending down. And it's all your fault for taking a break. 😔

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    Hmm. The monthly post count keeps going up, though. Assuming it is monthly and not total, which seems likely from the occasional decreases.

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      wow piefed is kinda taking off 🙂 Thats awesome.

      Its not like we cant all get what we want. Some will want lemmy, some will want piefed, some will want mastodon/kbin/mbin/etc...etc... Posts/comments show up in all. Its nice to have options.

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      Yeah, but look at the scale involved. That being said, I do expect it to stick around and become a major part of the ecosystem.

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      • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

        https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/stats

        Currently trending down. And it's all your fault for taking a break. 😔

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        Honestly, I'm not complaining about it going from 2 mil at its peak (2023!) to 1.25 mil now. That's way more people than I thought!

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        • openstars@discuss.onlineO [email protected]

          PieFed, like Mbin, was written from the ground up, and in a totally different language than Lemmy.

          But it interoperates with Lemmy, so yeah it's very similar. Except the LARGE list of features that PieFed has that Lemmy lacks, and a handful of features that Lemmy still does better on.

          Moreover, Lemmy will likely not ever catch up to PieFed. One reason being that certain features are incompatible with the authoritarian mindset - e.g. when a moderator removes your content, why should you as the poster be notified of that fact?

          But also, PieFed is written in Python that is a heck of a lot easier to code in than Rust, so the fact that PieFed not only caught up to Lemmy but has already surpassed it in SO MANY ways is a strong indicator of its future success.

          But aside from the tankies building in tankie philosophy right into the core of the Lemmy software, it depends on whether someone wants those additional features or not. Like polls, flairs (both user and post), categories of communities, which btw are user customizable and shareable, combining all comments across all cross-posts (helping to reverse the fragmentation effect inherent in federated platforms), and so much more.

          I bet that if you tried out PieFed for a day, you'd fall in love with it. You can also do entirely different workflows with it, like trigger notifications to be sent to you that really helps you to stay on top of posts from communities that are very low-volume (and so have trouble making it into your Subscribed feed, like poetry rather than politics or worshipping Arch Linux), but those are likely to take more than a day to figure out - there's definitely a learning curve. Also note that ymmv with regard to the different apps not (yet!) fully utilizing all the features offered by the PieFed back-end.

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          Moreover, Lemmy will likely not ever catch up to PieFed. One reason being that certain features are incompatible with the authoritarian mindset - e.g. when a moderator removes your content, why should you as the poster be notified of that fact?

          Hey, to be fair it's all public in the modlog. They have weird geopolitical ideas, but I don't see a lot of ways it's influenced the design of the platform.

          combining all comments across all cross-posts

          Okay, that does sound dope. How is it implemented? Does it only work if the commenter is on PieFed?

          Ditto for more priority going to niche communities. Way too often those posts just slip past in the waterfall of AskLemmy and Tech-related comment.

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            How can one obtain these numbers? Is there like a statistics website?

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            fedidb.com is what I used. The UI used to be better its kinda ass now.

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            • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

              Reddit is anything but far left. Only a conservative would think that

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              What's with all the "progressives" trying to convince everyone that reddit isn't a far left echo chamber these days? Is it to try and change the well-deserved reputation of being a highly censored leftist shithole so people will take it seriously?

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              • lumidaub@feddit.orgL [email protected]

                That email comparison annoys the fuck out of me. How is any of this like email?

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                Email and Lemmy are both digital communication systems where people use personal computers connected to the internet to socialize across the world. To you, they are completely different. To my parents and most of my clients (boomers), they are one and the same. Is the Nintendo Switch the same as the Steam Deck? Hell no, I don't even game, but I can rattle off a dozen differences between the two platforms. Yet, to those who are technologically illiterate (which is most Americans), they are one and the same. But I can understand your frustration, I had a Sega Genesis growing up, and my parents always called it a Nintendo, to which I would autistically shout "Moooom, it's a Seg-AH GEN-esis, it's totally different!"

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                  Email and Lemmy are both digital communication systems where people use personal computers connected to the internet to socialize across the world. To you, they are completely different. To my parents and most of my clients (boomers), they are one and the same. Is the Nintendo Switch the same as the Steam Deck? Hell no, I don't even game, but I can rattle off a dozen differences between the two platforms. Yet, to those who are technologically illiterate (which is most Americans), they are one and the same. But I can understand your frustration, I had a Sega Genesis growing up, and my parents always called it a Nintendo, to which I would autistically shout "Moooom, it's a Seg-AH GEN-esis, it's totally different!"

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                  Very relatable, of course, and triggering a bunch of that type of memory, thanks for that. But bizarrely, it's the opposite. The first thing I read about the Fediverse is how if I can understand email, I can understand the Fediverse. This was people who are way more geeky (and presumably autistic) than I am. I've seen that comparison several times since then and I still struggle to understand what the fuck they meant by that, other than "your username is [email protected] which looks like an email address" which is so fucking surface level it makes my head spin and has fuck-all to do with how you use the various platforms.

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                  • thekingoflorda@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                    Wow, calm down. It was just a question. The core difference between Reddit and lemmy is in my mind like the core difference between something like whatsapp and email.

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                    Wasn't directed at you personally, sorry. I've seen that comparison before and it makes me doubt my sanity.

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                    • paraphrand@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                      I answered your question about the similarities man. Settle down. You asked any and I gave you it. You didn’t ask for how it’s exactly like email.

                      Also, I think tech nerds tend to look down on others in this topic. “It’s too difficult, it’s too much to learn.” —- and thus it won’t be profitable? What are we worried about?

                      Activity pub and related networks didn’t just shrivel up and die right away due to this problem. I’m arguing with a stranger on the internet via a newer activity pub platform, in fact.

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                      You're right about tech nerds - I'm pretty sure most are borderline autistic, with a common trait of being far too literal in casual conversation. I (on the spectrum) spent a lot of time and effort conditioning myself to be more chill with neuro-norms. And it worked! I don't get bent out of shape anymore discussing techy things with non-techy people, not do I correct them, because they are going to forget the technical details the second I turn away, but they will definitely remember (and dislike) the nerd who starting arguing over some trivial detail.

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                      • lumidaub@feddit.orgL [email protected]

                        Very relatable, of course, and triggering a bunch of that type of memory, thanks for that. But bizarrely, it's the opposite. The first thing I read about the Fediverse is how if I can understand email, I can understand the Fediverse. This was people who are way more geeky (and presumably autistic) than I am. I've seen that comparison several times since then and I still struggle to understand what the fuck they meant by that, other than "your username is [email protected] which looks like an email address" which is so fucking surface level it makes my head spin and has fuck-all to do with how you use the various platforms.

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                        I think you and I are in that sweet sweet band of The Spectrum™ where we have heightened senses, intelligence, thirst for knowledge, ability to see things from unique perspectives, but without all the autistic screeching 😁

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                          What's with all the "progressives" trying to convince everyone that reddit isn't a far left echo chamber these days? Is it to try and change the well-deserved reputation of being a highly censored leftist shithole so people will take it seriously?

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                          You're a conservative.

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                          • Q [email protected]

                            I think you and I are in that sweet sweet band of The Spectrum™ where we have heightened senses, intelligence, thirst for knowledge, ability to see things from unique perspectives, but without all the autistic screeching 😁

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                            I couldn't possibly disagree with that, for obvious reasons. (. ❛ ᴗ ❛.)

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                            • lena@gregtech.euL [email protected]

                              Damn! How inefficient 🤪 but that explains a lot

                              Although I'm not a big fan of python, or dynamically typed languages in general, I think its DX is a lot better than stuff like C. Unless you really enjoy leaking 40GB of ram per second.

                              Python dev tend to vibe code

                              What? Maybe the percentage of vibe coders among python users is higher, but that's irrelevant. Just hire the real developers...

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                              Yeah, I think vibe coders being more common in Python is more a product of Python being pushed to more people, particularly new developers

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                              • D [email protected]

                                In recent weeks, I have posted an absolutely staggering amount of content on Lemmy.

                                My goal is simply to support the platform. I hate huge corporations.

                                Now I'm taking a break. I won't post anything or I'll post very little (I still feel a little guilty!! Who will post new content 😢?)

                                But I need to focus on improving my own life and relax.

                                However... I'm just curious.

                                Is the number of Lemmy users actually increasing, decreasing, or staying the same? Is that data even available?

                                Edit: I will still post stuff. I'll just post a lot less!

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                                not really, since the great purges in the spring thats where we had a huge boost, the shadowbans and sitewide ban seemed to have died down for now, although the SB are increasing in the background, we might see another increase if reddit does another major purge. although instances dying ive seen less content overall(especially with ee gone)

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                                • thekingoflorda@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                                  I believe it’s is slowly going down over time. But this is going at such a slow rate that reddit enshitification might lead more people to here in the future before there is no more great content on here.

                                  But thank you for making such a great effort. You deserve a break 🙂

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                                  reddit resorted to using more shadowban purges instead of sitewide bans to slow the number of people leaving the site, SB people often dont realized they been banned at least for a while.(i wonder if they realized thier sitewide purges is doing mroe damage to them then they admit, thats why shadowbans replaced the blatant purges.

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                                  • lena@gregtech.euL [email protected]

                                    They are transphobic, tankie assholes though. Here's a good list of the .ml shit: https://lemmy.world/comment/18997412

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                                    i blocked the tankie instances early on, and any stray .ml accounts that catches my attention.

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                                      Blocking ml from my feed was one of the better decisions I've made on here.

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                                      blocking the triad of tankies has been the best

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                                      • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                                        Moreover, Lemmy will likely not ever catch up to PieFed. One reason being that certain features are incompatible with the authoritarian mindset - e.g. when a moderator removes your content, why should you as the poster be notified of that fact?

                                        So Piefed sends me a PM when actions have been taken against my account/content?

                                        Don't even need to acknowledge the flairs and polls; sign me the fuck up.

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                                        when a lemmy instance, community bans you, it doesnt notify you of it

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                                        • lena@gregtech.euL [email protected]

                                          Damn! How inefficient 🤪 but that explains a lot

                                          Although I'm not a big fan of python, or dynamically typed languages in general, I think its DX is a lot better than stuff like C. Unless you really enjoy leaking 40GB of ram per second.

                                          Python dev tend to vibe code

                                          What? Maybe the percentage of vibe coders among python users is higher, but that's irrelevant. Just hire the real developers...

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                                          The difference is, that C and similar can be compiled, python and similar needs an interpreter to be run.

                                          This is the reason that languages that need to be compiled are why more efficient, meaning way less power is needed to execute, meaning less CO2 and cheaper server as less powerful hardware is needed.

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