DeepSeek AI raises national security concerns, U.S. officials say

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If it's open source and can be hosted locally, I don't think there are issues with national security in this case.

There is money to be lost though. Always follow the money.

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If they're limiting focus to the Chinese app then they're noir wrong. If they mean the whole model then they're full of crap.

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As we just lost any sort of moral high ground, ok. 2 years ago maybe I'd be worried. 9 years ago I'd definitely have been worried. Today, the enemy of my enemy is my ally.

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National security, anti-terrorism, protecting children.

The trifecta of reasons given for abolishing freedoms

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Weaselly little liars.

Deepseek released the model and showed how they made it.
You can run it locally. It doesn't connect to the internet.

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Hahahahahahahaha, manufactured consent in full throttle here. Hahahahahaha

*plays the world's smallest violin

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It's better than our usa tech, sir!

Quick, mark it as a security threat!

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The model isn’t afaik. I.e., if you download one of the models and run it locally. It’s the app with folks pasting proprietary, company secret, etc data into it.

Really, it’s the same problem as with ChatGPT, but now an organization in another country has your data. I guess we’ll see if our new techno bro overlords try to use this to their advantage across the board to limit competition, even from local processing.

Taking bets.

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While the calls from Moolenaar could be the first inkling of a possible congressional crackdown, Ross Burley — a co-founder of the nonprofit Centre for Information Resilience — warned that DeepSeek's emergence in the U.S. raises data security and privacy issues for users.

Yeah, because it's just soooo much better to have American plutocrats slurping up our data without consent and getting to do whatever they want with impunity. /s

"What they'll use it for is behavior change campaigns, disinformation campaigns, for really targeted messaging as to what Western audiences like, what they do," he added.

Yeah, because it's just soooo much better to have American plutocrats doing every single one of those things and more in the name of Profit. /s

Our leaders are hilariously tone-deaf.

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I just find it amusing how when proprietary data/company secrets/whatever are being sent to openAI it's a matter of "that was irresponsible don't let it happen again" but some guy in Kentucky isn't able to get a detailed description of Tiananmen Square from the US perspective without a little effort and it's the end of national security as we know it.

Same with the tiktok ban. How many classified military secrets do we think some regular dude in a trailer in Alabama really has on his phone?

"National Security" in the US is literally just code for rich people's bank accounts at this point.

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The War Thunder forum is a greater threat to "national security" than any of this AI whohash. Something, something, nickle...

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First time you do something is always harder. OpenAI just didn't think it was 1000x harder and thought they'd have more time to cash in.

Myself, I think that being able to throw billions of dollars at hardware, and their focus on next-quarter results discouraged them from putting in the human effort to analyze and optimize their process. It turns out there were some fantastic optimizations to do.

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Well yeah, it’s obviously more of a risk to send directly to your rival than internally. Both are risky but one is much, much worse.

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as Chinese law allows government access to company-held data.

... Kind of exactly like how US law allows government access to company-held data?

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Not that America doesn’t have its own problem. But what do the suicide prevention nets looks like at your office. Because they’re everywhere in china because of shitty working conditions. This is how they do shit so cheap.

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With a warrant. Main difference is the Chinese govt has no such roadblocks.

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Oh please. Warrants are rubber stamped, it's as simple as clicking a button. And do you really think entities like the NSA bother with formalities like warrants?

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And what exactly is the average person sending to China that's such a threat to US global Imperialism?

Sure, ban it on government devices or whatever you want to do, but why should civilians be punished because the government can't embezzle as efficiently?

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oh yeah, not denying that the prototype will be more expensive and resource intensive than following versions, but the whole "US overspends on novel technology, China blows that technology out of the water and shows this tech is both accessible and affordable, US bans Chinese product because American companies don't want to compete" shtick is just getting old

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but some guy in Kentucky isn't able to get a detailed description of Tiananmen Square from the US perspective

How about from the perspective of the pro-democracy protestors who were there? Don't turn a brutal crackdown on people trying to gain some control of their lives and their country as an East vs. West problem.

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