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How ok would you be if teleported right now into a field in Peru in the 1300s with... (see description)?

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  • lexam@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

    Dead
    Dead
    Dead

    I have a kidney transplant and require medication to live.

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    Bro, you should have thought of that before you went to Peru in the 1300s. Totally preventable.

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      A) I'm very resourceful and have formal wilderness training, but naked and completely foreign environs... Probably not going to do so well, especially if the weather is harsh.

      B) Pretty well. My backpack is my bag of tricks and my daily loadout includes my multitool, an IFAK, some clothing layers, and two water bottles. But it's still going to be a challenge because of completely foreign environs.

      C) Perfectly awesome, living my best life. My home is my sailboat with solar, 40000Wh battery storage, water makers, extensive first aid, dried food and spices, and more books, movies, and video games than I could possibly finish in my remaining years.

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      C)

      If something you can't fix breaks ?

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      • jackgreenearth@lemm.eeJ [email protected]

        A) Nothing, just totally naked

        B) What you're wearing and anything you carry with you (even if you're not carrying it right now) like a bag

        C) What you're wearing, what you carry with you, and the contents of your home (it will be teleported within a few hundred metres on the surface in an accessible location, but obviously won't be connected to any services like electricity or water)

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        I speak Spanish so I would be fine

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          Bit of a mixed bag here: Reading about some of Fridtjof Nansens expeditions is absolutely wild. These are people that wintered in the arctic without support, where no local population exists.

          The story I think is the wildest is when two guys got stuck on Franz Joseph's land for an entire winter, with minimal supplies. The following summer they began travelling towards land using kayaks they built, and were found by a British expedition.

          Besides being some awesome stories, I'm pointing this out to emphasise just how extremely resourceful and resilient some people can be. These guys survived for months, with very little resources, in conditions that can literally kill you in hours.

          Of course, in general, the best survival tactic is probably to try to find local populations and hope for help.

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          Yeah—I was basing that claim on Joseph Henrich’s survey of expeditions in The Secret of Our Success: How Culture Is Driving Human Evolution, Domesticating Our Species, and Making Us Smarter.

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          • buboscandiacus@mander.xyzB [email protected]

            C)

            If something you can't fix breaks ?

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            Instant death

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              I speak Spanish so I would be fine

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              I think the important part for you would be, "In the 1300s..."

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                I speak Spanish so I would be fine

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                The first Spanish speaker to step foot in the area now known as Peru didn't happen until 1513, 200 years after this hypothetical arrival date for you.

                Do you speak Quecha?

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                  C)

                  If something you can't fix breaks ?

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                  Sure, I'm not going to be replacing any modern consumables or modern tech. And the LiFePO4 cells are ultimately going to wear out. The solar cells will lose generation capacity. But I'll probably be long dead before that capacity becomes a concern. Hopefully the hardcopy books don't get wet, because that's where I keep the stuff I don't keep in my head.

                  That said, there's very little I can't fix on my boat. I did all of the work in my complete refit. If you know any open ocean sailors or sailboat delivery captains, we are a ridiculously resourceful bunch. Prepared AF. Kinda like the Eagle Scouts of the sea. Also, our gear is robust, resilient, and fault tolerant.

                  We sit around and practice this shit. There's not much else to do out in the ocean. 😄 "Oh, your refrigerator compressor died." I've got a brand new, spare compressor and a second refrigerator; move the most critical foods accordingly. "The second fridge died." Immediately switch to non-refrigeration food preservation techniques. "You're running critically low on salt." Use the brine rejection from the watermaker. And so on. Because of all the interlocking dependencies on sailboats, we have failover modes all the way down to tarring the hull and weaving hemp lines. Okay, not that far, but you get the idea.

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                    The first Spanish speaker to step foot in the area now known as Peru didn't happen until 1513, 200 years after this hypothetical arrival date for you.

                    Do you speak Quecha?

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                    Yep, that's the joke

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                      Sure, I'm not going to be replacing any modern consumables or modern tech. And the LiFePO4 cells are ultimately going to wear out. The solar cells will lose generation capacity. But I'll probably be long dead before that capacity becomes a concern. Hopefully the hardcopy books don't get wet, because that's where I keep the stuff I don't keep in my head.

                      That said, there's very little I can't fix on my boat. I did all of the work in my complete refit. If you know any open ocean sailors or sailboat delivery captains, we are a ridiculously resourceful bunch. Prepared AF. Kinda like the Eagle Scouts of the sea. Also, our gear is robust, resilient, and fault tolerant.

                      We sit around and practice this shit. There's not much else to do out in the ocean. 😄 "Oh, your refrigerator compressor died." I've got a brand new, spare compressor and a second refrigerator; move the most critical foods accordingly. "The second fridge died." Immediately switch to non-refrigeration food preservation techniques. "You're running critically low on salt." Use the brine rejection from the watermaker. And so on. Because of all the interlocking dependencies on sailboats, we have failover modes all the way down to tarring the hull and weaving hemp lines. Okay, not that far, but you get the idea.

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                      This lifestyle looks very interesting. Thanks for sharing !

                      Are there any ressources on the internet to look a bit more into it ?

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                        Yeah—I was basing that claim on Joseph Henrich’s survey of expeditions in The Secret of Our Success: How Culture Is Driving Human Evolution, Domesticating Our Species, and Making Us Smarter.

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                        Sounds like a good read, maybe I'll check it out 🙂

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                        • jackgreenearth@lemm.eeJ [email protected]

                          A) Nothing, just totally naked

                          B) What you're wearing and anything you carry with you (even if you're not carrying it right now) like a bag

                          C) What you're wearing, what you carry with you, and the contents of your home (it will be teleported within a few hundred metres on the surface in an accessible location, but obviously won't be connected to any services like electricity or water)

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                          I'm naked right now so all of these options leave me naked.

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                          • jackgreenearth@lemm.eeJ [email protected]

                            A) Nothing, just totally naked

                            B) What you're wearing and anything you carry with you (even if you're not carrying it right now) like a bag

                            C) What you're wearing, what you carry with you, and the contents of your home (it will be teleported within a few hundred metres on the surface in an accessible location, but obviously won't be connected to any services like electricity or water)

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                            Hmm.

                            1. Absolutely fucked

                            2. Still absolutely fucked

                            3. Ok for awhile I think. Until I was captured and killed for being some sort of impossible demon, or sacrificed as a prize because of unusual looks. Knives, tools to barter, rope, food. Nothing particularly good for hunting with.

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                              Yep, that's the joke

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                              Either I'm whooshed so hard I'm in a new reality or it just simply wasn't particularly funny

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                                Yep, that's the joke

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                                Lol, /s is your friend I think.

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                                  Either I'm whooshed so hard I'm in a new reality or it just simply wasn't particularly funny

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                                  I was mildly amused.

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                                    Hmm.

                                    1. Absolutely fucked

                                    2. Still absolutely fucked

                                    3. Ok for awhile I think. Until I was captured and killed for being some sort of impossible demon, or sacrificed as a prize because of unusual looks. Knives, tools to barter, rope, food. Nothing particularly good for hunting with.

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                                    Eh, cut them some slack. When the Spanish showed up sitting on top of wild animals, covered in metal and on an impossibly, comically large boat, the Aztecs toyed with the idea it was something supernatural, but figured out it was just more assholes pretty quickly. In this scenario, you're merely weird-looking and unintelligible.

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                                      A) Nothing, just totally naked

                                      B) What you're wearing and anything you carry with you (even if you're not carrying it right now) like a bag

                                      C) What you're wearing, what you carry with you, and the contents of your home (it will be teleported within a few hundred metres on the surface in an accessible location, but obviously won't be connected to any services like electricity or water)

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                                      A) Depends entirely on how long the locals put up with my uselessness. I might just die of diarrhea too, considering I have nil immunity to local germs and there's no sanitation.

                                      B) My clothes are now the finest textiles on earth, and I carry a multitool. In some ways, it might actually be better if I was naked and pitiful. Maybe they'll take me seriously long enough that I can build something for them, or find a kind of type clerical work that they actually need. Or, maybe they immediately rob me, kill me and dispose of the body before the other pale giants show up.

                                      C) Hmm, more interesting in a sense, although in many ways it's just a bigger version of the clothes problem. I couldn't really defend my house if they decide not to respect my ownership (and why would they? it was feudal times). And a whole building appearing from thing air is pretty much proof magic is afoot, which can go multiple ways.

                                      If they decide to humour me, I could do serious work for them pretty much immediately. These are people who still do a lot of things with stone tools. I can also introduce them to some new crops.

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                                        A) Depends entirely on how long the locals put up with my uselessness. I might just die of diarrhea too, considering I have nil immunity to local germs and there's no sanitation.

                                        B) My clothes are now the finest textiles on earth, and I carry a multitool. In some ways, it might actually be better if I was naked and pitiful. Maybe they'll take me seriously long enough that I can build something for them, or find a kind of type clerical work that they actually need. Or, maybe they immediately rob me, kill me and dispose of the body before the other pale giants show up.

                                        C) Hmm, more interesting in a sense, although in many ways it's just a bigger version of the clothes problem. I couldn't really defend my house if they decide not to respect my ownership (and why would they? it was feudal times). And a whole building appearing from thing air is pretty much proof magic is afoot, which can go multiple ways.

                                        If they decide to humour me, I could do serious work for them pretty much immediately. These are people who still do a lot of things with stone tools. I can also introduce them to some new crops.

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                                        The diarrhea is going to be one of the biggest challenges. The differences is food, parasite/microbiota challenges... dehydration and acclimating to the local food supply are going to present problems.

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                                          The diarrhea is going to be one of the biggest challenges. The differences is food, parasite/microbiota challenges... dehydration and acclimating to the local food supply are going to present problems.

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                                          You'll probably be killed for washing your hands before eating or something.

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