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How ok would you be if teleported right now into a field in Peru in the 1300s with... (see description)?

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  • jackgreenearth@lemm.eeJ [email protected]

    A) Nothing, just totally naked

    B) What you're wearing and anything you carry with you (even if you're not carrying it right now) like a bag

    C) What you're wearing, what you carry with you, and the contents of your home (it will be teleported within a few hundred metres on the surface in an accessible location, but obviously won't be connected to any services like electricity or water)

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    #61

    A) Depends entirely on how long the locals put up with my uselessness. I might just die of diarrhea too, considering I have nil immunity to local germs and there's no sanitation.

    B) My clothes are now the finest textiles on earth, and I carry a multitool. In some ways, it might actually be better if I was naked and pitiful. Maybe they'll take me seriously long enough that I can build something for them, or find a kind of type clerical work that they actually need. Or, maybe they immediately rob me, kill me and dispose of the body before the other pale giants show up.

    C) Hmm, more interesting in a sense, although in many ways it's just a bigger version of the clothes problem. I couldn't really defend my house if they decide not to respect my ownership (and why would they? it was feudal times). And a whole building appearing from thing air is pretty much proof magic is afoot, which can go multiple ways.

    If they decide to humour me, I could do serious work for them pretty much immediately. These are people who still do a lot of things with stone tools. I can also introduce them to some new crops.

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      A) Depends entirely on how long the locals put up with my uselessness. I might just die of diarrhea too, considering I have nil immunity to local germs and there's no sanitation.

      B) My clothes are now the finest textiles on earth, and I carry a multitool. In some ways, it might actually be better if I was naked and pitiful. Maybe they'll take me seriously long enough that I can build something for them, or find a kind of type clerical work that they actually need. Or, maybe they immediately rob me, kill me and dispose of the body before the other pale giants show up.

      C) Hmm, more interesting in a sense, although in many ways it's just a bigger version of the clothes problem. I couldn't really defend my house if they decide not to respect my ownership (and why would they? it was feudal times). And a whole building appearing from thing air is pretty much proof magic is afoot, which can go multiple ways.

      If they decide to humour me, I could do serious work for them pretty much immediately. These are people who still do a lot of things with stone tools. I can also introduce them to some new crops.

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      The diarrhea is going to be one of the biggest challenges. The differences is food, parasite/microbiota challenges... dehydration and acclimating to the local food supply are going to present problems.

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        The diarrhea is going to be one of the biggest challenges. The differences is food, parasite/microbiota challenges... dehydration and acclimating to the local food supply are going to present problems.

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        You'll probably be killed for washing your hands before eating or something.

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        • buboscandiacus@mander.xyzB [email protected]

          This lifestyle looks very interesting. Thanks for sharing !

          Are there any ressources on the internet to look a bit more into it ?

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          Depends on which context in which you're interested. Internet? Hm... For the refit part and thinking through/designing for all of these factors, maybe The Duracell Project (https://www.youtube.com/@TheDuracellProject/videos). Most of the people I know actually doing this stuff are... actually doing it. There's not a lot of time and bandwidth to create an accessible internet resource. And the seriously salty folk, most of them barely have email. Among my sailing peers, I'm the most technologically capable, and that's not saying much. 😄 We tend to eschew the high tech that invariably will let us down when we most need it. Much of seafaring knowledge and skills are born from hard experience and sitting around getting drunk with old salts, which is its own kind of hard experience. 😄

          You start small, push the limits, break shit, find fixes in order get back to port, and find what works for you with what you have at hand. Anything you couldn't fix, you go to your marina neighbors or the internet to find jury-rigs for that specific failure mode. In your day-to-day life, learning some basic knots, how to make whoopie slings and soft shackles with Dyneema, wilderness first aid, wilderness first responder training, even basic disaster preparedness all help change your perspective on how you approach your day. For example, drilling for natural disaster response, at least for me, shifts my mindset into a "what could go wrong," "what are the failure modes of [this critical component]" way of thinking. These are aspects you can explore without a boat or having wilderness nearby.

          I haven't watched a lot of her stuff, but Wind Hippie Sailing (https://www.youtube.com/@WindHippieSailing/videos) is a seriously badass solo dirtbagger (not a pejorative; it's technical term cribbed from rock climbing). Solo sailors are a breed apart and a few steps above the rest of us salty dogs who have crew.

          Downloaded to my Kiwix app or installed on phone/tablet and mirrored across a bunch of backup devices:

          • 100 Rabbits
          • Ready.gov
          • Animated Knots
          • U.S. Army Ranger Handbook (hard to ignore 200 years of military refinement)
          • Survival Manual (sadly no longer available)

          Now if you're okay with books, lots of great resources there.

          • "Sailing Alone Around the World" by Joshua Slocum
          • "Sailing a Serious Ocean" by John Kretschmer
          • "Cruising in Serrafyn," "The Self Sufficient Sailor," "The Capable Cruiser" by Larry and Lyn Pardey; hell, almost all of their books are great reads; they sailed the world for decades with almost no electric and no engine
          • "Where There Is No Doctor and "Where There Is No Dentist," Hesperian Health Guides
          • "Annapolis Book of Seamanship" by John Rousmaniere
          • Just about anything by Fatty Goodlander, funny stories on the dirtbagging lifestyle

          Let me know if you any additional questions. Happy to share.

          Edit to add: Practical Sailor (https://www.practical-sailor.com/), a great internet resource . JFC, how did I forget that?!

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            Depends on which context in which you're interested. Internet? Hm... For the refit part and thinking through/designing for all of these factors, maybe The Duracell Project (https://www.youtube.com/@TheDuracellProject/videos). Most of the people I know actually doing this stuff are... actually doing it. There's not a lot of time and bandwidth to create an accessible internet resource. And the seriously salty folk, most of them barely have email. Among my sailing peers, I'm the most technologically capable, and that's not saying much. 😄 We tend to eschew the high tech that invariably will let us down when we most need it. Much of seafaring knowledge and skills are born from hard experience and sitting around getting drunk with old salts, which is its own kind of hard experience. 😄

            You start small, push the limits, break shit, find fixes in order get back to port, and find what works for you with what you have at hand. Anything you couldn't fix, you go to your marina neighbors or the internet to find jury-rigs for that specific failure mode. In your day-to-day life, learning some basic knots, how to make whoopie slings and soft shackles with Dyneema, wilderness first aid, wilderness first responder training, even basic disaster preparedness all help change your perspective on how you approach your day. For example, drilling for natural disaster response, at least for me, shifts my mindset into a "what could go wrong," "what are the failure modes of [this critical component]" way of thinking. These are aspects you can explore without a boat or having wilderness nearby.

            I haven't watched a lot of her stuff, but Wind Hippie Sailing (https://www.youtube.com/@WindHippieSailing/videos) is a seriously badass solo dirtbagger (not a pejorative; it's technical term cribbed from rock climbing). Solo sailors are a breed apart and a few steps above the rest of us salty dogs who have crew.

            Downloaded to my Kiwix app or installed on phone/tablet and mirrored across a bunch of backup devices:

            • 100 Rabbits
            • Ready.gov
            • Animated Knots
            • U.S. Army Ranger Handbook (hard to ignore 200 years of military refinement)
            • Survival Manual (sadly no longer available)

            Now if you're okay with books, lots of great resources there.

            • "Sailing Alone Around the World" by Joshua Slocum
            • "Sailing a Serious Ocean" by John Kretschmer
            • "Cruising in Serrafyn," "The Self Sufficient Sailor," "The Capable Cruiser" by Larry and Lyn Pardey; hell, almost all of their books are great reads; they sailed the world for decades with almost no electric and no engine
            • "Where There Is No Doctor and "Where There Is No Dentist," Hesperian Health Guides
            • "Annapolis Book of Seamanship" by John Rousmaniere
            • Just about anything by Fatty Goodlander, funny stories on the dirtbagging lifestyle

            Let me know if you any additional questions. Happy to share.

            Edit to add: Practical Sailor (https://www.practical-sailor.com/), a great internet resource . JFC, how did I forget that?!

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            #65

            Thank you for the long and detailed answer ! I’ll sure go check those out

            Take this Lemmy Silver 🥈

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              You'll probably be killed for washing your hands before eating or something.

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              #66

              Eh. Some traditional cultures do that anyway. I highly doubt they'd freak out over it, let alone to the point of violence.

              They might think you're weird, and you're probably going to have to gather your own washing water, though. And if they're doing clean hand/dirty hand you should respect it also.

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              • jackgreenearth@lemm.eeJ [email protected]

                A) Nothing, just totally naked

                B) What you're wearing and anything you carry with you (even if you're not carrying it right now) like a bag

                C) What you're wearing, what you carry with you, and the contents of your home (it will be teleported within a few hundred metres on the surface in an accessible location, but obviously won't be connected to any services like electricity or water)

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                #67

                A) Probably okay-ish? I was in the scouts and I'm not completely incompetent at being outdoorsy.

                B) Overnight bag probably isn't much help. At least my breath will be minty.

                C) Enjoy the new timeline bitches, because I am now the 14th century's most powerful military.

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                  A) I'm very resourceful and have formal wilderness training, but naked and completely foreign environs... Probably not going to do so well, especially if the weather is harsh.

                  B) Pretty well. My backpack is my bag of tricks and my daily loadout includes my multitool, an IFAK, some clothing layers, and two water bottles. But it's still going to be a challenge because of completely foreign environs.

                  C) Perfectly awesome, living my best life. My home is my sailboat with solar, 40000Wh battery storage, water makers, extensive first aid, dried food and spices, and more books, movies, and video games than I could possibly finish in my remaining years.

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                  You win.

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                    Do you speak whatever language they spoke in Peru in the year 3000?

                    Can you learn it before you become the main offering in a ritual sacrifice?

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                    Why would they start sacrificing people out of blue?

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                      Why would they start sacrificing people out of blue?

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                      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacrifice_in_pre-Columbian_cultures

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                      • jackgreenearth@lemm.eeJ [email protected]

                        A) Nothing, just totally naked

                        B) What you're wearing and anything you carry with you (even if you're not carrying it right now) like a bag

                        C) What you're wearing, what you carry with you, and the contents of your home (it will be teleported within a few hundred metres on the surface in an accessible location, but obviously won't be connected to any services like electricity or water)

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                        A) Probably dead of heat or dead as I couldn't communicate with anyone
                        B) I would have a translator and some clothes, books ,pen but nothing that useful
                        C) I have a way to charge my devices and have the resources to become a magician.

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                          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacrifice_in_pre-Columbian_cultures

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                          Looks like all cultures that lived in territories of modern Peru only sacrificed children, so question stands. 🙃

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                          • jackgreenearth@lemm.eeJ [email protected]

                            A) Nothing, just totally naked

                            B) What you're wearing and anything you carry with you (even if you're not carrying it right now) like a bag

                            C) What you're wearing, what you carry with you, and the contents of your home (it will be teleported within a few hundred metres on the surface in an accessible location, but obviously won't be connected to any services like electricity or water)

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                            Dead you introduce diseases and they introduce diseases from each other and you can't give them immunity. Almost like time travel is just 1/4 of time travel

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                              Looks like all cultures that lived in territories of modern Peru only sacrificed children, so question stands. 🙃

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                              Maybe time travel makes the traveller look like a children once it arrives.

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                                Lol, /s is your friend I think.

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                                Aléjate de mí con eso

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                                • jackgreenearth@lemm.eeJ [email protected]

                                  A) Nothing, just totally naked

                                  B) What you're wearing and anything you carry with you (even if you're not carrying it right now) like a bag

                                  C) What you're wearing, what you carry with you, and the contents of your home (it will be teleported within a few hundred metres on the surface in an accessible location, but obviously won't be connected to any services like electricity or water)

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                                  A) Completely fucked. Likely dead within days.

                                  B) Less fucked than most I imagine. I do a lot of hiking (multiple times a week) and carry the 10 essentials in my bag, including a water filter. Food would be the biggest issue as I typically only have one meal and some snacks in my bag. I think it's doable though.

                                  C) I think I'd be fine. I have enough food to last for months if I ration it and the knowledge, seeds and tools to grow a pretty robust heirloom garden. I also have water filtration and backups, as well as tents for shelter, solar rechargeable batteries for light at least until the panels and batteries degrade, and hand tools to build a more robust shelter. If the contents of my whole house came though the difficulty would be feeding my dog and cat, so we'd have to quickly start working on figuring out how to get meat regularly. I'd have about 2 months of food for them, but that would go quick. I am not readily equipped for hunting so I'd have to cobble together some snares. I have Wikipedia downloaded to an old Kindle and that would probably help in that department. I think in this scenario I'd be fine until disease got me. I have emergency antibiotics in my house though so I could at least survive a couple rounds of bacterial diseases.

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                                  • jackgreenearth@lemm.eeJ [email protected]

                                    A) Nothing, just totally naked

                                    B) What you're wearing and anything you carry with you (even if you're not carrying it right now) like a bag

                                    C) What you're wearing, what you carry with you, and the contents of your home (it will be teleported within a few hundred metres on the surface in an accessible location, but obviously won't be connected to any services like electricity or water)

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                                    A) Play up my auspicious naked arrival as supernatural and attempt to live as the wisest person in the area. I’ll speak in Spanglish and mystify them!

                                    B) The jig is up, I’m wearing a neon shirt so anyone in the area will spot me and wonder wtf I am doing staring at a little thing in my hand. I’d do the best a pocha can to speak the two or three words of Quechua I learned on vacation, then attempt to make their lives better, and educate them to the best of my abilities.

                                    C) My partner and cats are coming too! Same as above but with the benefit of lots of science, tech, and medical books. I’d be so much happier to have my partner, cats, and my own hovel to retreat to.

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                                    • jackgreenearth@lemm.eeJ [email protected]

                                      A) Nothing, just totally naked

                                      B) What you're wearing and anything you carry with you (even if you're not carrying it right now) like a bag

                                      C) What you're wearing, what you carry with you, and the contents of your home (it will be teleported within a few hundred metres on the surface in an accessible location, but obviously won't be connected to any services like electricity or water)

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                                      Regardless of how long you survive, your body both living and dead would be the single most potent bioweapon on earth.

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