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Teslas turn toxic as sales crash in Europe and the UK | EV sales in the region are growing, but not for Tesla

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  • R [email protected]

    Doing a from-heart-to-sun salute tends to hurt sales in UK and Germany, who woulda thought. The stereotype about French is that they don't care and might even like it, but maybe this is also about build and design quality.

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    You may want to read the text before commenting nonsense, the French are not pleased either.
    | Sales are crashing in France, Germany, and the UK
    | In France, sales of new Teslas fell by 63 percent

    I don't see what justify your attack, it seems unnecessary to attack people based on their nationality.
    Yes, we do have a far-right issue in France, but it's pretty much the same as everywhere else in Europe and there is still a resisting left here, not all hope is lost.
    Also, regarding your comment below, the white flag stereotype for France comes from 2003, when the US and allies invaded and destroyed Irak, but for once France stood against the US imperialism.

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    • dan@upvote.auD [email protected]

      Fully solid-state batteries are just around the corner - some Chinese models already have a semi-solid-state battery, MG are releasing one this year, companies like Toyota and Honda are working on it too. The current use case is to extend range (600+ miles / 1000+ kms) but they could also be used to get similar range as today's cars with a much lighter battery.

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      Solid state is just around the corner in the same way fusion is. Toyota announced in 2010 they'd have it in prod by 2015, then 2018, then 2020, then 2025 then..."real soon now™ "

      The MG "may be a semi solid state"

      https://electrek.co/2024/12/16/new-semi-solid-state-battery-ev-launching-2025/

      Which is not quite the same thing.

      BYD and CATL who have a good track record of delivery are suggesting 2030

      TL;DR

      Don't wait for solid state, the current battery tech is more than adequate for the majority of people. Holding off for something "perfect" that may never arrive when "good enough" is here diesn't seem logical to me

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      • toribor@corndog.socialT [email protected]

        Maps like this are the only way my feeble American brain can process complicated European things.

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        While entirely correct, the Irish get very antsy about being included in the British Isles. It's a "colonial relic" is probably the nicest version. So yes the map is correct from a British pov but not from an Irish one.

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        • bzah@discuss.tchncs.deB [email protected]

          You may want to read the text before commenting nonsense, the French are not pleased either.
          | Sales are crashing in France, Germany, and the UK
          | In France, sales of new Teslas fell by 63 percent

          I don't see what justify your attack, it seems unnecessary to attack people based on their nationality.
          Yes, we do have a far-right issue in France, but it's pretty much the same as everywhere else in Europe and there is still a resisting left here, not all hope is lost.
          Also, regarding your comment below, the white flag stereotype for France comes from 2003, when the US and allies invaded and destroyed Irak, but for once France stood against the US imperialism.

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          It's a joke, it's supposed to be grotesque. Grotesque is usually different from adequate to reality.

          That's first, second, my comment does incorporate the fact that the French are not pleased either. You may want to improve your skills of processing two-sentence comments.

          Oops, this one is four sentences, I guess it's going to hurt.

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          • S [email protected]

            Yeah, get a van. The only people on site with these are lads with more money than work, mammy and daddy funded, or the developer who wouldnt see concrete dust land on it.

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            A van can't deal with even remotely muddy grass. I lost count of how many vans I rescued, back when I had my pickup. They are also a lot less effective at dragging a horse trailer etc. Vans also (generally) don't have back seats. If you're also having to trek up and down the motorways, then the comfort of the ranger makes a big difference.

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            • O [email protected]

              Europeans don't want to drive a Swasticar? Why? Did something happen to make them dislike Nazis for some reason?

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              Looks at my VW

              *Erika intensifies*

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              • P [email protected]

                Also doing a nazi salute in front of thousands of people with full blown media coverage.

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                ADL supporting Musk's salute, made US media/Zionist CNBC anyway ignore it. Germany doing the projection stunt on Tesla factory had more EU coverage. Social media, even reddit, is just starting to censor Musk anger now. Though, old people who casually think what mainstream media tells them, would go "media told us that ADL said he never did it, and they would never profit from anti semitism"

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                  Early car sales data for January is starting to arrive from countries across the pond, and they paint an alarming picture for Tesla. Sales are crashing in France, Germany, and the UK—all affluent countries that are key markets for Tesla's electric vehicles. Coming on the heels of a large financial miss, it's just one more problem for the automaker.

                  Tesla sales dropped around 13 percent across Europe in 2024, but so far this year, the scale of the problem is far greater. In France, sales of new Teslas fell by 63 percent, while total car sales in the country fell by just 6 percent, with EV sales dropping just half a percent.

                  Germany was already looking like lost ground for Tesla—its 41 percent drop in 2024 accounted for most of Tesla's lost sales across Europe. That must make the 59 percent drop in German Tesla sales recorded during January even more painful on the profit and loss statements.

                  Across the Channel, the British auto industry just released its sales data for January. Here, Tesla sales fell less precipitously—just 12 percent. However, battery EV sales were 35 percent higher in the UK in January 2025 than in January 2024. The cake is growing, but Tesla is getting to eat less and less of it.

                  In fact, no Tesla cracked the UK's top 10 best-seller list last month, something that has regularly happened in the past, although that may be due to having just two models for >sale in most markets.

                  Large declines have also been recorded in Sweden (44 percent), Norway (38 percent), and the Netherlands (42 percent).

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                  Having competition tends to do that 🤷

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                  • R [email protected]

                    White-flag secretly-fascist Vichy one

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                    Ah, the historically inaccurate, war criminal powered (Bush), meme. I forgot it included also a taste for the Vichy regime.

                    Strange to mention that and ignore Germany, the country that, you know, back then and now, has always been way more on the right than France.

                    "Punish France, ignore Germany" is still the current policy.

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                    • F [email protected]

                      I'm still friends with my ex, who's American (as I am), but it's far from a distant memory for her. 90% of her extended family on her mother's side died in Auschwitz. Nearly as many on her father's side were murdered too,

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                      #113

                      Unfortunately, for most Americans, WW2 is more of a call of duty plot.

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                        Can't wait to hear soldiers killing people in Ramstein driving these.

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                        • R [email protected]

                          The UK is technically on a few islands, one can use Gibraltar to argue, of course, and historically English crown did possess lots of land in Normandy, Anjou, Aquitaine and even Flanders, also that union with Hannover, but ahem.

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                          Bunch of EU countries have land outside the mainland though

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                          • M [email protected]

                            Ah, the historically inaccurate, war criminal powered (Bush), meme. I forgot it included also a taste for the Vichy regime.

                            Strange to mention that and ignore Germany, the country that, you know, back then and now, has always been way more on the right than France.

                            "Punish France, ignore Germany" is still the current policy.

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                            Germany lost, so it won't be funny for them.

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                            • kurcatovium@lemm.eeK [email protected]

                              Well, I mean a car where I can fit with my wife, two kids, bag of groceries and still drive uphill...

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                              I do that kind of trips with Spring. No problem. It has surprisingly big trunk for groceries and whatnot. If kids are above 3yo it’s all good.

                              Obviously it’s not a highway monster but for every day trips we usually take this one.

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                              • M [email protected]

                                Bunch of EU countries have land outside the mainland though

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                                Most of their land you mean? EU yes, Europe has many definitions

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                                • T [email protected]

                                  The EU one has camo painted seas, so I needed several seconds for my understanding of "what is where" kicked in. I wonder how they got this stupid idea

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                                  It's probably a more accurate colour anyway. I've seen the channel, it is mostly just gray.

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                                  • rickyrigatoni@lemm.eeR [email protected]

                                    Give it a couple million years of plate tectonics.

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                                    The UK and Ireland are part of the same plate as Europe. Anyway 2 million isn't even that much time for continental drift, If you traveled back in time to the Jurassic that wouldn't be a significant difference between the layout of the continents then and the layouts of the continents now.

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                                    • F [email protected]

                                      Except for Jutland, the same could be said of the 400+ islands that make up Denmark. Yet Denmark is universally regarded as part of Europe, despite the main landmass/island pedantry.

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                                      The islands are still on the same plate, so they are still on the same continent.

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                                      • S [email protected]

                                        Microlino, Fiat panda grande, Renault 5, Citroën Ami and others. The smaller and more affordable versions are getting there.

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                                        Not a single one of them is available where I live. And once I checked them, they're not really family cars I was hoping for.

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                                        • N [email protected]

                                          The fiat 500 e fits all that and it’s a delight to drive.

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                                          It's a cool car, yes. Too small for me, but cool as fuck. Used ones are affordable, but it's still 34k € new, which is not cheap at all.

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