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What is something that should have died out a long time ago?

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    It just means abandoning the idea of a "correct spelling".

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      Fossil fuel subsidies. No longer needed since we have more viable alternatives, and they just contribute to global warming, and litter.

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      farm subsidies too, the only reason they are even here is because its a large voting block.

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        July and August
        Add them to the end of the calendar or rename them properly, there is no reason September-December should have been globally accepted out of order for over 2000 years

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        • tattorack@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

          You know, I actually don't think it'll be a good idea to kill people who are only powerful because they can talk. The more I think about it, the more I think they'll be turned into martyrs by their followers. It'll only embolden them.

          So, something that really upsets the world in a tangible way would be...

          Shooting more CEOs. And bankers.

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          😬🫥

          I would be inclined to believe you, looking at these protests and manifestations that happened in London after the Kirk shooting. Scary works right now.

          I still want to believe we live in a world where there are more welcoming people than there are hostile people. Otherwise the world is truly lost.

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            Humans organised by hierarchy.

            It never works and always ends with civilisations that ever attempt it collapsing. No matter how often we do the same dumb shit over and over it never works.. Are we insane anons ?

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              Electricity

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                @chunes Rupert Murdoch.

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                  Why? Do you know him?

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                  Huh? No. I was gonna make the suicide joke. They got here first so I won't make the same joke.

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                    Fair point. No one can be sure about there being anything after death. For me it's like the safest and most logical bet that there won't be anything. All other 'options' come across a lot like wishful thinking. No one is going to believe in anything that doesn't fit their own narrative.
                    Personally, I would not be able to believe Santa Claus is real, so why would I believe in anything supernatural? I'd rather find answers in science.
                    Also, the idea of there being eternal life after death would just terrify me. It would be the most boring and useless way to spend time. It is the notion of my time being limited that gives it value. When time is unlimited, everything loses meaning.

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                    I hear you. But then does the existence of some sort of higher purpose/unknown science necessarily imply everlasting life?

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                      Humans organised by hierarchy.

                      It never works and always ends with civilisations that ever attempt it collapsing. No matter how often we do the same dumb shit over and over it never works.. Are we insane anons ?

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                      Oh we definitely are. We already have had so many profound human beings that to live well all that is needed is just listen to them and apply what they have said. But no, people choose to do dumb shit yet again and again

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                        I'm not sure that's true.

                        The supply chain for food is heavily dependent on diesel. All machinery on farms is diesel, and the trucks that move the food to silos then mills then factories and then shops are all diesel.

                        Presently there's no real substitute for that machinery. Sure it might be technically possible to construct an electric tractor or truck but it's not economically viable at this time.

                        The subsidies don't really serve to make fossil fuels continue to be viable, it's more like a measure to avoid sudden inflation due to fluctuations in the price of diesel.

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                        🤣🤣🤣🤣
                        There are dozens of companies making electric tractors, AND in a rural area it is much more viable to have solar panels than to rely on the next diesel delivery, or make long trips to the nearest filling station.

                        Areas with solar panels are even posting higher crop yields.

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                          I just posted this in response to another idiot, but it works here too:

                          I'm not sure that's true.

                          The supply chain for food is heavily dependent on diesel. All machinery on farms is diesel, and the trucks that move the food to silos then mills then factories and then shops are all diesel.

                          Presently there's no real substitute for that machinery. Sure it might be technically possible to construct an electric tractor or truck but it's not economically viable at this time.

                          The subsidies don't really serve to make fossil fuels continue to be viable, it's more like a measure to avoid sudden inflation due to fluctuations in the price of diesel.

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                          Actually there is..
                          Like i said before there are many high quality electric tractors. I have even seen so many farmers even convert their old tractors to electric in response to John Deere's shitty policies.

                          Farm equipment doesn't care what is is run on.

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                            Gnats. And flies.

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                              Humans organised by hierarchy.

                              It never works and always ends with civilisations that ever attempt it collapsing. No matter how often we do the same dumb shit over and over it never works.. Are we insane anons ?

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                              It works in communities of around 100 people, like those human evolved in. Which is why this is our default organization structure, every form of government devolves to sooner or later. Maybe we should give up the idea of countries or at least try to keep it in check with smart laws somehow.

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                                Actually there is..
                                Like i said before there are many high quality electric tractors. I have even seen so many farmers even convert their old tractors to electric in response to John Deere's shitty policies.

                                Farm equipment doesn't care what is is run on.

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                                Even if that were true they're not presently in common use. Agriculture presently runs on diesel.

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                                  Huh? No. I was gonna make the suicide joke. They got here first so I won't make the same joke.

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                                  But instead I made one.

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                                    🤣🤣🤣🤣
                                    There are dozens of companies making electric tractors, AND in a rural area it is much more viable to have solar panels than to rely on the next diesel delivery, or make long trips to the nearest filling station.

                                    Areas with solar panels are even posting higher crop yields.

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                                    I think you misunderstand the economic choice that smaller farms are making. When you can get a 50 year old workhorse tractor for 20k that you can actually maintain yourself, it makes far more sense than any 200k+ tractor whether diesel or electric. Additionally folks are used to diesel, they've already got a big tank on the property that they refill every few months, and they might not have sufficient electrical connection to get several of the giant swapable battery packs for their tractors and keep one on the charge while they work.

                                    If farmers were starting from scratch, sure it might make sense to go all solar and all electric, but these are folks who are constantly squeezed for cash, constantly relying on crop insurance and well-timed loans and subsidies to stay afloat living on 200 year old farms that have been in the family since the land was stolen from the native Americans, and probably still using the equipment dad bought in the 60s and 70s because that's the most financially viable option.

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                                      I think you misunderstand the economic choice that smaller farms are making. When you can get a 50 year old workhorse tractor for 20k that you can actually maintain yourself, it makes far more sense than any 200k+ tractor whether diesel or electric. Additionally folks are used to diesel, they've already got a big tank on the property that they refill every few months, and they might not have sufficient electrical connection to get several of the giant swapable battery packs for their tractors and keep one on the charge while they work.

                                      If farmers were starting from scratch, sure it might make sense to go all solar and all electric, but these are folks who are constantly squeezed for cash, constantly relying on crop insurance and well-timed loans and subsidies to stay afloat living on 200 year old farms that have been in the family since the land was stolen from the native Americans, and probably still using the equipment dad bought in the 60s and 70s because that's the most financially viable option.

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                                      Ahahah, tractor you can maintain yourself. In America. What a joke

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                                        I'm not sure that's true.

                                        The supply chain for food is heavily dependent on diesel. All machinery on farms is diesel, and the trucks that move the food to silos then mills then factories and then shops are all diesel.

                                        Presently there's no real substitute for that machinery. Sure it might be technically possible to construct an electric tractor or truck but it's not economically viable at this time.

                                        The subsidies don't really serve to make fossil fuels continue to be viable, it's more like a measure to avoid sudden inflation due to fluctuations in the price of diesel.

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                                        A diesel engine can literally run on vegetable oil. We don't need fossil fuel subsidies to keep farm tractors working.

                                        If we must distort the market directly, we should do so on the demand side. Give farmers a per-Joule fuel subsidy, and let them use petro-disel, bio-disel, or electric as the market may provide.

                                        Either we believe that markets work or we don't

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                                          farm subsidies too, the only reason they are even here is because its a large voting block.

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                                          I saw a vlog that interviewed local farmers that were trying to be diverse planting strawberries and veggies. They explained that they were barely making it, but if they just planted corn the subsidies would kick in and they're make a lot more.

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