French President Macron says France will recognize Palestine as a state
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This could be a signal that they would take the right side on the Israel-EU trade debate.
this is a smoke screen to make you forget about Israel-EU trade debate
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Will they? When? Before or after the genocide is complete?
I think the guy above you is asking what is Macron recognising as "Palestine". As in does he recognise Palestine as a state under attack by Israel for example, and in recognising Palestine, does he also say that Israel is unlawfully occupying their territory.
Or what exactly does Macron say Palestine's legitimate government is. Hamas? Fatah? The Knesset?
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In April he teased that they might recognize Palestine in June. What's the hold up?
https://www.arabprogress.org/en/macron-and-the-recognition-of-a-palestinian-state-the-stated-position-and-its-prospects/they had to discuss more with israel and traitors to have a strong plan to demilitarize Palestinians while giving zero guarantees that Israel will end occupation
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this is a smoke screen to make you forget about Israel-EU trade debate
How is this making me forget about Gaza?
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How is this making me forget about Gaza?
I said t Israel-EU trade debate not forgetting gaza
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States only exist in our minds.
And our legal system.
Ending borders is a noble ideal but it's not currently practical. People need many of the services their country provides, like healthcare, elderly care, pensions, unemployment assistance etc.
With no national boundaries, and no alternative system in place, society as we know it collapses.
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And our legal system.
Ending borders is a noble ideal but it's not currently practical. People need many of the services their country provides, like healthcare, elderly care, pensions, unemployment assistance etc.
With no national boundaries, and no alternative system in place, society as we know it collapses.
The legal system also only exists because we wrote our thoughts down. It’s barely more real than a border.
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Not recognizing states that obviously exist is extremely silly.
Yeah. exactly why Palestine should be recognized. israel is, however, a european invention and terrorist colony.
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Not good at all. No mention of Palestine living in security like Israel. He ask for Palestinians to be completely demilitarized before having real assurance that Israel will end occupation completely , there is no mention of how the two state solution would be accomplished and what will happen if Israel refuses
israel. should. not. exist.
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I said t Israel-EU trade debate not forgetting gaza
Yeah, but the biggest issue in front of the EU that has any chance of altering anything in the short term is the trade deal. How does this distract from it?
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Yeah, but the biggest issue in front of the EU that has any chance of altering anything in the short term is the trade deal. How does this distract from it?
They are fighting against the US trade war and you want me to believe that they can't do more against Israel. I don't want to here any excuses from western leaders who either applauded Israel when they attacked Iran nuclear facilities which is a big war crime or was just silent.
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when?? after every Palestinian has starved to death? just so they can pretend to have a moral standing?
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when?? after every Palestinian has starved to death? just so they can pretend to have a moral standing?
just so they can pretend to have a moral standing?
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Absolutely love this. Again, its time for the EU to step up its international politics game, and this is exactly how you do it
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They are fighting against the US trade war and you want me to believe that they can't do more against Israel. I don't want to here any excuses from western leaders who either applauded Israel when they attacked Iran nuclear facilities which is a big war crime or was just silent.
I am not saying they can't do more, or that they are not culpable.
I am saying that this is Macron inching away from the genocidal chorus towards the side trying to do something. I am not even saying he's actually going to take that side, just that maybe he will.
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Yeah. exactly why Palestine should be recognized. israel is, however, a european invention and terrorist colony.
You don’t have to think Israel should exist. But what good does it do to pretend they don’t when they obviously do?
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The legal system also only exists because we wrote our thoughts down. It’s barely more real than a border.
Non tangible things are still real. Families are real.
The creation of complex systems is uniquely human and is what allows development and progress.
Without these systems, laws and things including incorporatng non human entities has pros and cons. Development of healthcare and increasing longevity and increased food production, sanitation and reduction in hunger are a benefit. War and genocide are a problem. However, wars still happened before the introduction of borders. See Norse vikings, Roman empire creation etc.
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States only exist in our minds.
Lol so I agree with you 100%. There is a strong case against the recognition of any states on that basis.
But, so long as we have a legal system that functions on the basis of this social construct, the idea that we should capriciously decide to recognize or not recognize various states doesn’t serve any practical purpose that I can see.
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You don’t have to think Israel should exist. But what good does it do to pretend they don’t when they obviously do?
I am not speaking of a “they”, but of a “what.”
israel is a group of invasive terrorists who, for almost a century now, or more depending on inclusion of zionism, have invaded a land that was already a nation on its own and already recognized by the world.
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I am not saying they can't do more, or that they are not culpable.
I am saying that this is Macron inching away from the genocidal chorus towards the side trying to do something. I am not even saying he's actually going to take that side, just that maybe he will.
I am saying that this is Macron inching away from the genocidal chorus towards the side trying to do something
Congrats you got fooled, that's exactly what Israel and macron want you to believeTHE PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC
Paris, July 24, 2025
Mr. President,
By letter dated June 9, 2025, you informed France and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia of the will of the Palestinian Authority to put an end to the war in Gaza with a view to achieving just and lasting peace in the region, while strongly reaffirming its support for the implementation of the two-state solution. You condemned the terrorist attacks of October 7, 2023, and called for the immediate release of hostages held by Hamas, advocated the disarmament of Hamas, and its withdrawal from the governance of Gaza. You highlighted the commitment of the Palestinian Authority to fully assume its responsibilities in all Palestinian territories, including Gaza, to undergo deep reforms, and to organize presidential and legislative elections in 2026 in order to strengthen its legitimacy and authority over the future Palestinian State, which you emphasized should not be militarized.
I commend these courageous commitments and, in return, I inform you of France's mobilization in favor of the implementation of the two-state solution, with Israel and Palestine living side by side in peace and security. This solution constitutes the only path that can respond to the legitimate aspirations of Israelis as well as Palestinians. We must now achieve it as quickly as possible.
Civilian populations have paid an unbearable price during the terrorist attacks of October 7 by Hamas and during the war pursued by Israel in Gaza. At the same time, the prospect of a negotiated solution to the conflict in the Middle East seems to be receding. I do not accept this.
His Excellency Mr. Mahmoud ABBAS
President of the Palestinian AuthorityNo condemnation of Israel occupation , blaming everything on Hamas and asking demilitarization without providing zero security guarantees, yet you think macron is genuine about recognizing Palestine and about Palestinians living in peace
