Canadians are 'perplexed' by Trump's tariffs, ambassador to the US says

[tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

Only about a third of us. The rest either voted for them or didn't care enough to vote.

[yodan@lemm.ee]

Trumps ego NEEDS the optics for himself to be strong, so he makes an issue where there is none to control the narrative and pressure other presidents. Like a bully calling someone smelly and fat in the lunch room. It's not about this country or that country, he doesn't care about anyone not named Trump. He wants publicly, other leaders to kiss his ring so he can make the stone cold steve austin X motion and say "suck it!" to anyone else.

OH also crashing the economy is good for billionaires who can absorb the hit without changing their lifestyle at all and just buy infrastructure and government works to privatize.

[alecsadler@sh.itjust.works]

Fuck both of those groups.

[reallyactuallyfrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com]

The tariffs, set to take effect Tuesday, are aimed at pressuring cooperation on immigration and drug control.

Canada would have cooperated already, that's what having allies means. This is going to your neighbor and holding their dog hostage to borrow a cup of sugar - they would have done it anyway, but now you're making an enemy for nothing.

And, since Trump announced that nothing Canada could do would stop the tariffs, the only explanation is that making an enemy is the point.

Unrelatedly, do we even have a way to track when Trump is talking with Putin at this point? He resisted having third parties present during the first term, but we still had notice of the conversations. The yes-men and lawlessness already means we probably will never know if and when they're talking.

[cruxifux@feddit.nl]

All three of your “groups” can fuck off actually.

[proish@lemmy.world]

One of those groups didn't want this, but you go king

[cruxifux@feddit.nl]

One of those groups keeps on voting for politicians to lead their party that enabled this so they can fuck off just as hard. American libs can downvote me all they want but the rest of the world is just totally sick of all of your shit man.

[alecsadler@sh.itjust.works]

You're not entirely wrong.

But 3rd party voting is part of the contributor to the current predicament. It would've been better to vote for the lesser evil and buy some time to regroup and mobilize.

Would it have happened? I don't know. But it probably would've been better than this.

[herrvorragend@lemmy.world]

Agreed to everything you said, but the X motion and "suck it!" does not come from Stone Cold Steve Austin. It was a staple of Degeneration X. Sorry for nitpicking

[hootinnhollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

It’s to throw confusion while musk takes control of the treasury!

[eagle0110@lemmy.world]

Right, and your solution to this is to scream and yell and curse around to everyone exactly like that oversized orange colored baby who got elected?

You do understand this affects you in every way possible too even if you are not an American, especially with Russian forces literally right on the door front of the Western Europe, don't you?

[walrusdragononabike@reddthat.com]

Even the people who voted for him or are closely involved with his election are also confused because they haven't got their exceptions.

[noneofurbusiness@fedia.io]

It would've been better to vote for the lesser evil and buy some time to regroup and mobilize.

I mean let's be honest: That was not going to happen. Nobody regrouped or mobilized under Biden, even when he doubled down on genocide or when the DNC nominated him and then nominated Harris without a primary and tanked her campaign. Nothing I've seen in the final year of Biden's term convinced me that anyone was going to do anything about the DNC except complain.

[soulg@sh.itjust.works]

Oh ok we should've just voted for the fascists too then huh

At least make an intelligent point or just admit that there's no logic behind the hate

[felixcress@lemmy.world]

It was always an excuse, not a reason.

[hiddenlayer555@lemmy.ml]

A lot of us think it's to prepare for an invasion judging by how much 51st state bullshit he and his followers are spewing.

[dukepontus@sh.itjust.works]

Dont pretend the rest of the world are saints. I live in Europe, we also have the rise of extreme right (fascism)... Less judging other people and more protesting. We need eachother, now is not the time for infighting.

[rabber@lemmy.ca]

Trudeau already did what he asked and spent another 1.3b on border control last week. This actually has nothing to do with drugs and immigration at all

[whatamlemmy@lemmy.world]

It's to distract from all their treasonous crimes! The fact they're illegally destroying countless government institutions, looting the public coffers, and giving Musk the keys to the kingdom. When the dust settles they'll have seized control of everything important.

They aren't gonna invade Canada or Greenland... At least, not for a few years; not until they've purged enough military leadership and replaced them with loyalists. I hope they are dumb enough to try in 2025 though. That might genuinely result in civil war. I can't see the US military going along with it.

[hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works]

Both the DNC and RNC have historically been hunky-dory with the status quo, mostly because change is hard and requires a leadership geared towards doing what's right vs what sustains their power and profis.

American politics is completely fucked up and I'm not sure there's anything that can be done except a complete overhaul.