Microsoft Probing If DeepSeek-Linked Group Improperly Obtained OpenAI Data

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Once tuna runs out, and we run out of boats?

Maybe we then stop destroying the tuna population?

Or, to bring this back to point: the environment will be better off once the AI bubble collapses.

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They didn’t steal it from Smith & Wesson?

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What the fuck is Microsoft getting involved for?! Maybe concentrate on not providing shitty fucking software fuck heads!

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When a writer copies someone else's work without cites or compensation, it's called "plagiarism." But when an AI does it, it's called "LLM training."

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Unless that AI is not OpenAI, then it's "plagiarism" still.

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They have a large stake in OpenAI, last I checked.

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I ducking knew it too, I've been a long for the ride though. The models still do have some niche applications where they're actually useful.

This whole thing with OpenAI and Microsoft whinging about fair play is truly laughable though. What clowns.

As a side note, it took a few tries to write ducking, my keyboard kept correcting it to fucking. We're definitely 2 different people. Lol.

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That's a very important, but entirely separate conversation.

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Making R1 open source really makes it such a big FU to all the grifters asking for billions for AI in the us. Especially funny because high-flyer is a hedge fund firm themselves. The ai race should only be determined by what you do with it, not protecting how much IP you hoovered up and are now trying to cry about it being copied by others.

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Its actually very much the conversation. The quicker the race to the bottom happens, the quicker this entire bubble bursts, and the quicker we stop torching the planet for imaginary profits.

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That's your opinion/agenda, not a legitimate argument in the conversation about AI efficiency. The discussion is on how best to achieve a goal, and you're saying that it shouldn't be achieved. Even if you're right, you're still going off on a separate tangent.

You're the vegan who butts in on the conversation about how best to sear a steak and says meat is murder. You're welcome to your opinion on meat and you may even be right, but it is of absolutely no value or interest to the people talking about methods for cooking meat.

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That’s your opinion/agenda, not a legitimate argument in the conversation about AI efficiency

I'm not arguing about the "efficiency" of it. I'm stating that OpenAI did the exact same thing they are complaining DeepSeek did: Steal other's work, remix it, and then claimed it as their own.

And to reply to you "tuna fisher" analogy, I would be fully ok with people stealing the loads of tuna, to hasten the collapse of the entire industry.

Its you who is getting into the weeds about this, not I.

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Apple did pay Xerox for it if I'm remembering right

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So you butted into an argument about efficiency, said "fuck all that", and then said I'm getting too in the weeds by sticking to the original topic?

Go spraypaint some fur coats or something. We're trying to have an honest discussion.

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I didn't butt into shit. You replied to my, top level comment, attacking something I don't even care about.

Go spraypaint some fur coats or something. We’re trying to have an honest discussion.

I am too. So OpenAI is pissed that someone else did the same fucking thing they did, and now, "Stealing people's content" is wrong.

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OMG Competition!

QUICK, they're a foreign threat! They're coming right for us!!!!

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Name the company involved a military asset
Forbid US companies from hosting the models
Pressure foreign companies to not work with them

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Microsoft Probing If DeepSeek-Linked Group Improperly Obtained data the same way OpenAI did.
--FTFY

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When a reader reads someone else’s work that’s called “reading”. But when an AI does it, it’s called “training”.

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The entire post is about Microsoft investigating whether DeepSeek faked its results using OpenAI data, driving the freefall in tech stocks and endangering future investment in the technologies used to create the models.

You not liking the tech has fuck-all to do with the topic.

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Microsoft Probing If DeepSeek-Linked Group Improperly Obtained OpenAI Data