Microsoft Probing If DeepSeek-Linked Group Improperly Obtained OpenAI Data

[therealkuni@lemmy.world]

They have a large stake in OpenAI, last I checked.

[quexotic@infosec.pub]

I ducking knew it too, I've been a long for the ride though. The models still do have some niche applications where they're actually useful.

This whole thing with OpenAI and Microsoft whinging about fair play is truly laughable though. What clowns.

As a side note, it took a few tries to write ducking, my keyboard kept correcting it to fucking. We're definitely 2 different people. Lol.

[chiliedogg@lemmy.world]

That's a very important, but entirely separate conversation.

[lappingdog@sh.itjust.works]

Making R1 open source really makes it such a big FU to all the grifters asking for billions for AI in the us. Especially funny because high-flyer is a hedge fund firm themselves. The ai race should only be determined by what you do with it, not protecting how much IP you hoovered up and are now trying to cry about it being copied by others.

[ubergeek@lemmy.today]

Its actually very much the conversation. The quicker the race to the bottom happens, the quicker this entire bubble bursts, and the quicker we stop torching the planet for imaginary profits.

[chiliedogg@lemmy.world]

That's your opinion/agenda, not a legitimate argument in the conversation about AI efficiency. The discussion is on how best to achieve a goal, and you're saying that it shouldn't be achieved. Even if you're right, you're still going off on a separate tangent.

You're the vegan who butts in on the conversation about how best to sear a steak and says meat is murder. You're welcome to your opinion on meat and you may even be right, but it is of absolutely no value or interest to the people talking about methods for cooking meat.

[ubergeek@lemmy.today]

That’s your opinion/agenda, not a legitimate argument in the conversation about AI efficiency

I'm not arguing about the "efficiency" of it. I'm stating that OpenAI did the exact same thing they are complaining DeepSeek did: Steal other's work, remix it, and then claimed it as their own.

And to reply to you "tuna fisher" analogy, I would be fully ok with people stealing the loads of tuna, to hasten the collapse of the entire industry.

Its you who is getting into the weeds about this, not I.

[notsteve_@lemmy.ca]

Apple did pay Xerox for it if I'm remembering right

[chiliedogg@lemmy.world]

So you butted into an argument about efficiency, said "fuck all that", and then said I'm getting too in the weeds by sticking to the original topic?

Go spraypaint some fur coats or something. We're trying to have an honest discussion.

[ubergeek@lemmy.today]

I didn't butt into shit. You replied to my, top level comment, attacking something I don't even care about.

Go spraypaint some fur coats or something. We’re trying to have an honest discussion.

I am too. So OpenAI is pissed that someone else did the same fucking thing they did, and now, "Stealing people's content" is wrong.

[rumba@lemmy.zip]

OMG Competition!

QUICK, they're a foreign threat! They're coming right for us!!!!

[rumba@lemmy.zip]

1. Name the company involved a military asset
2. Forbid US companies from hosting the models
3. Pressure foreign companies to not work with them

[rumba@lemmy.zip]

Microsoft Probing If DeepSeek-Linked Group Improperly Obtained data the same way OpenAI did.
--FTFY

[intensely_human@lemm.ee]

When a reader reads someone else’s work that’s called “reading”. But when an AI does it, it’s called “training”.

[chiliedogg@lemmy.world]

The entire post is about Microsoft investigating whether DeepSeek faked its results using OpenAI data, driving the freefall in tech stocks and endangering future investment in the technologies used to create the models.

You not liking the tech has fuck-all to do with the topic.

[ubergeek@lemmy.today]

And you chose to reply to my comment, attacking a strawman that you yourself created.

And yes, this entire post is about MS, aka OpenAI being bigly mad someone took "their" work, copied it, and passed it off as their own. The literal exact same thing MS, aka OpenAI did.

You not liking the tech has fuck-all to do with the topic.

You opinions of what the topic are have fuck all to do with the actual topic.

[shirro@aussie.zone]

Microsoft shareholders and regulators (if they still exist in the modern US) might do better to investigate Microsoft leaderships relationship with Altman and why they banked the company on bullshit claims about a product the market does not want. Things are going to get really nasty when the finger pointing starts to get serious. Trillions of dollars are being wasted and the only ones who made money were grifters and NVIDIA.

[the_decryptor@aussie.zone]

Yep, Apple paid with shares (More specifically, the right to buy $1 million dollars worth at the initial share price) which, according to a share calculator I just tried, would be worth nearly $328 million these days, I wonder if Xerox kept them or offloaded them early.

Considering Xerox was utterly uninterested in any of the tech they had, it's worked out well.

[deepus@lemm.ee]

Oh fair, i didnt know that. But still, fuck Microsoft.