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Netanyahu Says It’s Antisemitic For Israeli Soldiers To Describe Their Own Atrocities

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    ... which is actually anti-semitic because Gazans are Semites too

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    So do the people that support Netanyahu not recognize this hypocrisy or are they all in on the grift?

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    • laserjet@lemmy.dbzer0.comL [email protected]

      the existence of a specific term is due to pervasive and long standing existence of antisemitism in Europe.

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      #136

      By that logic there is even more reason for there to be a special word for being prejudiced against the Roma People (for those who don't know, they're commonly called Gypsies).

      By the way, the Nazis targetted them as much as they targetted the Jewish People, yet we almost never hear about the genocide of Roma People in the Holocaust.

      Two weights two measures, same as always: the Jewish People just went from the "untermenschen" column to the "ubermeschen" one whilst other ethnic groups did not.

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      • archmageazor@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

        Is Israel trying to give retroactive justification to Germany ca. 1940?

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        Only if you believe the racist idea that a nation, any nation, can represent everybody who is part of an ethnicity, i.e. and specifically in this case, that Mathematically the group "Jewish People" and the group "Israel and its supporters" are exactly the same group.

        If however the group "Israel and it's supporters" is but a subset of the group "Jewish People", then the actions of the subset of the larger group do not justify punishing the wider group, same as, say, the actions of the Ku-Klux-Klan do not justify punishing everbody who is deemed White or the actions of ISIS do not justify punishing everybody who is Muslim.

        I think the idea that the actions or victimization of some who are part of a broader group defined by nothing else than the ethnicity they were born into justifies a different treatment of everybody of the broader ethnic group, is THE most common racist trope there is, to the point that even liberals defend that shit (whilst, with zero irony or self awareness, calling it "positive").

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        • frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.worldF [email protected]

          I really wish genociders would stop calling criticism of genocide "antisemitism". it just nullifies the impact of the word. also as I have said many times before, Palestinians are semites

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          #138

          He's such a shit stain towards Jews. He's devaluing the word which is dangerous given he's already done so much to make Jewish people unsafe around the world

          The rise of anti-Semitism is for the most part due to his actions post October 6th.

          Fuck him. My kids did not fear their half-Jewish heritage. Now they do. What is he doing for Jewish people again?

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            Antisemitic has lost all meaning when it just serves to perpetuate genocide.

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              War Crime Benji is concerned the truth casts shade on Israel ?

              And he calls it anti semetic?

              Maybe syphilis is affecting the language centers of his brain, because he seems to have no understanding of that word.

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                #141

                Alright, I spent a bit too long on this so I may as well post it somewhere.
                Miles is Antisemitic

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                • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zipP [email protected]

                  Hamas is antisemitic and has publicly bragged about it

                  Evil brings evil

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                  This is false. Hamas since its founding has repeatedly stated they only fight against Israel because of resistance to settler colonialism and ethnic cleansing and not because of their religion.

                  You can hear the founder of Hamas say so here: https://youtu.be/FCxRZrBYLVg

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                    Well, maybe in the original meaning of the word. Most Palestinians do speak a Semitic language. The word usually now mean anti-jewish though.

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                    These days it seems to mean anti what ever views Israel wants you to have

                    It has been so watered down it isn't even funny

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                      The atrocities committed by people under the flag of every religion there is saddens me, though.

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                      How are they different to the atrocities committed without religion being involved?

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                        How are they different to the atrocities committed without religion being involved?

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                        The false righteousness and a cult of accepting it as good or being ostracized, otherwise it’s the exact same, because religion doesn't improve things, it only gives a false sense of justification to commit attrocity.

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                        • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI [email protected]

                          Sure, but Israel depends on hamas to justify their genocide.
                          They have funded them.

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                          Witb justification or not israel will always oppress palestinians because it believe all rhe land is jewish.

                          Israel didn't fund hamas, qatar did. Unlike hamas, israel collect palestinian taxes in west bank and directly fund them with part of it

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                          • N [email protected]

                            “It’s not really the religion…”

                            Explains how it is, in fact, religion.

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                            Imperialism, supermasism and ressource controls.

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                              The atrocities committed by people under the flag of every religion there is saddens me, though.

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                              The urss was not religious it was atheist they still killed 1.5 millions afghani

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                                The false righteousness and a cult of accepting it as good or being ostracized, otherwise it’s the exact same, because religion doesn't improve things, it only gives a false sense of justification to commit attrocity.

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                                “Accepting it as good or being ostracised”

                                This is just wrong.

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                                  The urss was not religious it was atheist they still killed 1.5 millions afghani

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                                  Yeah, people are shitty, religion doesn’t fix that.

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                                    Yeah, people are shitty, religion doesn’t fix that.

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                                    If you want to critisize religion go for it, create posts about it. Don't come here making it look like the conflict is all about religion. It's about one state occupying another. Ben gurion the first prime minister was secular he still killed and oppressed palestinians. Most zionists use the argument of ancestral right not religious right. Just because palestinians are generally religious don't mean you can't support the right for freedom

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                                      His very existence is anti-Semitic. Hope he gets gaddafied eventually.

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                                        By that logic there is even more reason for there to be a special word for being prejudiced against the Roma People (for those who don't know, they're commonly called Gypsies).

                                        By the way, the Nazis targetted them as much as they targetted the Jewish People, yet we almost never hear about the genocide of Roma People in the Holocaust.

                                        Two weights two measures, same as always: the Jewish People just went from the "untermenschen" column to the "ubermeschen" one whilst other ethnic groups did not.

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                                        a special word for being prejudiced against the Roma People

                                        According to wikipedia you have several choices: "antigypsyism, anti-Romanyism, antiziganism, ziganophobia, or Romaphobia".

                                        Furthermore there are terms "porajmos (also porrajmos or pharrajimos—literally, "devouring" or "destruction" in some dialects of the Romani language)... Balkan Romani activists prefer to use the term samudaripen ("mass killing")" to describe the holocaust on Romani people.

                                        It's difficult to over emphasize how willfully ignorant the above commenter is. They don't care about jews or roma. This is an example of real anti semitism, which continues to pervade, and is the reason why Israel and its oligarchs can get away with mislabeling legitimate activity as such. Because everyone knows there are people like this running around who are seeking to ride the wave of empathy for the palestinians (who they also don't care about) to stir up anti-jew attitudes.

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                                        • laserjet@lemmy.dbzer0.comL [email protected]

                                          a special word for being prejudiced against the Roma People

                                          According to wikipedia you have several choices: "antigypsyism, anti-Romanyism, antiziganism, ziganophobia, or Romaphobia".

                                          Furthermore there are terms "porajmos (also porrajmos or pharrajimos—literally, "devouring" or "destruction" in some dialects of the Romani language)... Balkan Romani activists prefer to use the term samudaripen ("mass killing")" to describe the holocaust on Romani people.

                                          It's difficult to over emphasize how willfully ignorant the above commenter is. They don't care about jews or roma. This is an example of real anti semitism, which continues to pervade, and is the reason why Israel and its oligarchs can get away with mislabeling legitimate activity as such. Because everyone knows there are people like this running around who are seeking to ride the wave of empathy for the palestinians (who they also don't care about) to stir up anti-jew attitudes.

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                                          All clearly as frequently used as "anti-semitism" /s

                                          And yeah, I don't care about race, any race, I care about people, which includes that they're not unjustly treated for things that were not their choice, such as the race they were born into.

                                          It's Racists who feel the need to care about a race or races, defending things for some races which they do noit defend for others, doing little performances about how others must care about those races too and that those who don't "are against those races" - for them race comes first, defining a person and dictating how they should be treated.

                                          For Humanists race is something that should be of as little importance to how somebody is treated as the color of their eyes or how tall they are, and yet they see again and again race weponized by Racists to treat people differently even though those people haven't actually earned such treatment through their actions: in other words race fro Humanists is something that should be irrelevant yet has been turned by others into a pivot for injustice.

                                          It's pretty obvious from your little performance which one you are.

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