Valve seems to have quietly rolled out a major upgrade to their Anti-Cheat system and it’s apparently wrecking havoc on cheat providers
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I don’t generally have a problem with anti-cheat mechanisms except when they require things like secure-boot or allowing me to do what I want with my machine.
They're all proprietary, wouldn't want that crap on my system anyway. (I don't game anymore)
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It can be tested in closed systems but it's not something you can easily define the success rate of because the cheats are constantly evolving and game updates close or introduce vulnerabilities.
There is still value of having an anti-cheat even if it does not have a high chance of catching cheaters, so long as it keeps false positives to a minimum.
"there is still value of having an anti cheat even though it does not have a high chance of catch cheaters"
That doesn't make any sense. LOL. What's the value then of the anti cheat?
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Then I'd argue there isn't an effective anti cheat. Valorant definitely has cheaters.
Can you please provide evidence that valorant has more or less cheaters than CS2, scaled by player base. Hearsay and personal experience aren't facts. I personally have not encountered more than 1 cheater in valorant whereas with other games without kernel level anti cheat, every other lobby has one.
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Can you please provide evidence that valorant has more or less cheaters than CS2, scaled by player base. Hearsay and personal experience aren't facts. I personally have not encountered more than 1 cheater in valorant whereas with other games without kernel level anti cheat, every other lobby has one.
wrote last edited by [email protected]By your definition, anti cheat stops cheaters or it doesn't lmfao what does other games have to do with it? Can you provide sources that valorant only has 1 cheater?
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By your definition, anti cheat stops cheaters or it doesn't lmfao what does other games have to do with it? Can you provide sources that valorant only has 1 cheater?
I asked you to provide evidence of the rampant cheating problem in valorant as compared to games without kernel level anti cheat. The theory being, if valorant has less cheaters than let's say, CS, that means a kernel level anti cheat is more effective than VAC at deterring cheating.
Of course that's just a theory. No one has evidence for anything
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"there is still value of having an anti cheat even though it does not have a high chance of catch cheaters"
That doesn't make any sense. LOL. What's the value then of the anti cheat?
You can die in a car accident, even if you wear a seat belt.
LOL what's the value of a seatbelt? You're either very dull or a troll. Maybe both.
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You can die in a car accident, even if you wear a seat belt.
LOL what's the value of a seatbelt? You're either very dull or a troll. Maybe both.
That's a car not a video game. You don't need to insult me you dimwit. Apples and oranges.
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That's a car not a video game. You don't need to insult me you dimwit. Apples and oranges.
You failed to understand the parallel between my example and the topic at hand, so I'm proud to announce that you've passed the idiot test with flying colors!
Pro tip: apples and oranges can be compared and contrasted. They have a large variety of similarities and differences.
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You failed to understand the parallel between my example and the topic at hand, so I'm proud to announce that you've passed the idiot test with flying colors!
Pro tip: apples and oranges can be compared and contrasted. They have a large variety of similarities and differences.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Why do you sound like a 12th grader who just discovered Reddit? "You've passed the idiot test!"
Cringiest comment I've ever seen in my life. Goodbye cunt.
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Why do you sound like a 12th grader who just discovered Reddit? "You've passed the idiot test!"
Cringiest comment I've ever seen in my life. Goodbye cunt.
Lol, I can't even play around with a satirical condescending tone because you're too dense to pick up on it.
I guess there are people with lead skulls! (/s)
Bye-bye shitstain!
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Lol, I can't even play around with a satirical condescending tone because you're too dense to pick up on it.
I guess there are people with lead skulls! (/s)
Bye-bye shitstain!
"I was only pretending to act like an idiot"
And you double down. Redditor sounding like an AI chatbot. Get fucked.
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I assume Steam makes it easier to make multiplayer games then GOG?
Much more so - I think largely because of Steam's game server networking and update infrastructure.
Also anti-cheats (of any sort) and DRM-free games are kind of oil and water.
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I asked you to provide evidence of the rampant cheating problem in valorant as compared to games without kernel level anti cheat. The theory being, if valorant has less cheaters than let's say, CS, that means a kernel level anti cheat is more effective than VAC at deterring cheating.
Of course that's just a theory. No one has evidence for anything
So you have no evidence?
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So you have no evidence?
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Got anything with up to date data?
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Got anything with up to date data?
This is literally from a few months ago.
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Does anyone have proof that this is less/more effective than kernel level anti cheat?
Please provide factual evidence, not hearsay. That's % cheaters detected vs % cheaters not detected scaled by the overall player base.
Please provide factual evidence, not hearsay. That's % cheaters detected vs % cheaters not detected scaled by the overall player base.
Yeah good luck providing such evidence for any kind of game or anti-cheat.
Personally, I hate kernel level ac and it made me actually stop playing few games and avoid similar ones. Had enough of mere games screwing up with my PC through EAC and EAC ignoring my reports for years.
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This is literally from a few months ago.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Right after an update, so you think the cheat providers just gave up? So you don't have recent data?
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That source is biased. However looking at their ban types, behavior type is less than 5% probably. I'd imagine it should've been majority for an anti-cheat that works well.
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Hypothesis: people who cheat in video games are scum bags in other aspects of life. I wonder if anyone's done a study on that. I feel like the kind of person who has to cheat in video games is a broken sad sack.
Counter (simplier) hypothesis: people who don't care about how they negatively impact other people's experience are overall scumbags.