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Corporations are saving the planet!

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    I know it's supposed to help with recycling, the issue is that it fails to address the core of the problem. Instead of actually doing something about plastic waste, they change the bottle design a little, someone probably makes a shitload of money off that, and everyone is happy, but in reality nothing of substance has actually been done. They offer us these pathetic compromises and we are stupid enough to be satisfied with them.

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    That's not about companies doing something, it's just a new law

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      What do you think happens to bottles after you throw them in the trash? They get shipped off to some landfill where they're buried and forgotten about, that's just littering with extra steps.

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      I am starting to think that you are very young, Lemmy is not supposed to be used by underage ppl! Yes yes yes, no one can stop you realistically but please consider why such a rule would be made! Not because Lemmy’s servers just cannot handle all the users…

      Litter means rubbish in publics non-designated areas! If you want to use a word not for its conventional meaning, and if you wanted others to understand you for whatever reason, you start off with a definition

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        I am starting to think that you are very young, Lemmy is not supposed to be used by underage ppl! Yes yes yes, no one can stop you realistically but please consider why such a rule would be made! Not because Lemmy’s servers just cannot handle all the users…

        Litter means rubbish in publics non-designated areas! If you want to use a word not for its conventional meaning, and if you wanted others to understand you for whatever reason, you start off with a definition

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        So trash in nature is ok as long as you don't see it?

        Anyways, it seems you are far more intelligent and knowledgeable than me, so it probably doesn't make sense to debate you since I will lose either way...

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          When cleaning up beaches and the like, those caps are the litter they found the most.

          People lost them or didn't bother to pick them up because they are so small. Unlike with the bottles themselves.

          Since they switched to the new caps, the amount of caps found has decreased significantly.

          So yes, they work. It is all based on data.

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          Also, the caps separated from the bottle fall through dinky cracks easier, like street drain covers) and get lost easier (or drop out of the bottom of the bin easier, etc.), being attached to the large bottle makes that more difficult to occur.

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            On other news, there are biodegradable plastics. We should probably use those more. Sure we'll end up with biodegradable plastic in our bodies but basically it would be inert. PVA, PVOH and CMC for example are inert plastic-like chemicals that can coat stuff in foams. CMC for example makes the clear gel that you put on your hair as well as the gel-like behavior you get from various cosmetics. PVA/PVOH is part of non toxic glue. and what's in those molecules? Just carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, hydrogen, nothing more than what's already in our bodies.

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              That's an EU regulation, not a corporate measure. And it has drastically decreased the amount of littered bottle caps, so a good thing.

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                Ofc it is, but stupid fucks have to complain about mundane shit

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                I'm only complaining about all the people that apparently regularly lost bottle caps. I don't think that has happened to me ever... Not the end of the world and if it reduces litter I'll deal with it but I curse these people every time one of the new caps is being annoying to screw back on.

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                  I'm only complaining about all the people that apparently regularly lost bottle caps. I don't think that has happened to me ever... Not the end of the world and if it reduces litter I'll deal with it but I curse these people every time one of the new caps is being annoying to screw back on.

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                  Minority opinion, but I like those style caps. I like that I dont have to hold the cap. It's much easier on the go.

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                    I rip those off out of spite

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                    • C [email protected]

                      So trash in nature is ok as long as you don't see it?

                      Anyways, it seems you are far more intelligent and knowledgeable than me, so it probably doesn't make sense to debate you since I will lose either way...

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                      Not knowing what words mean is fine, having a brain fart is fine at whatever age!! But crossing your arms and continuing to pretend that you have to be right…

                      Are the unseen parts of a forest meant for trash collection?

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                      • S [email protected]

                        Not sure if this applied universally, but I remember for years and years the common knowledge was that plastic caps are unrecyclable for some reason, and there used to be separate bins to toss them at recycling centers. That's no longer the case, so keeping the cap connected to the bottle is one way to demonstrate that they should be recycled together.

                        (By "recycled" I mean most likely shipped to Southeast Asia to then most likely just find their way into the ocean)

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                        I remember they used to collect bottle caps to donate to charities that used it to make stuff for dogs and stuff

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                          That's an EU regulation, not a corporate measure. And it has drastically decreased the amount of littered bottle caps, so a good thing.

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                          An EU regulation that was heavily lobbied for by Coca Cola.

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                            I like the convenience of not losing the cap

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                              I end up dribbling because the lid gets in my way, but it's fine because I'm helping to offset the pollution caused by a billionaire's private jet.

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                              If you keep pushing it further open it has a detent that will hold it open far enough that even my big nose won't touch it... It's an amazing design, better than a screw cap in every way. Well, at least the properly designed ones.

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                                I think the cap thing is more about littering because in those countries people litter only the cap for some reason?

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                                The bottle has a deposit on it, the cap doesn't

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                                • S [email protected]

                                  Not sure if this applied universally, but I remember for years and years the common knowledge was that plastic caps are unrecyclable for some reason, and there used to be separate bins to toss them at recycling centers. That's no longer the case, so keeping the cap connected to the bottle is one way to demonstrate that they should be recycled together.

                                  (By "recycled" I mean most likely shipped to Southeast Asia to then most likely just find their way into the ocean)

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                                  (By "recycled" I mean most likely shipped to Southeast Asia to then most likely just find their way into the ocean)

                                  You would be wrong; PET bottles are mostly actually recycled, because it recycles very well (also, why would places go to the effort of setting up a deposit/return scheme for something they aren't actually recycling? Just throw it in the blue bag with all the other plastic that doesn't actually get recycled)

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                                  • bruncvik@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                                    An EU regulation that was heavily lobbied for by Coca Cola.

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                                    Really? I never heard that before. What would they care about how their caps are? I can't see it having any impact on them at all. A lot of people got pissed about it when Coca Cola was one of the first to change the caps in line with the regulation, so if anything it hurt Coca Cola.

                                    Also even though large corporations are almost always totally evil, it's not impossible for them to do something good as well. Probably not for the right reasons, but still, one thing doesn't exclude the other.

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                                      If you keep pushing it further open it has a detent that will hold it open far enough that even my big nose won't touch it... It's an amazing design, better than a screw cap in every way. Well, at least the properly designed ones.

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                                      Sometimes they're harder to close

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                                        The bottle has a deposit on it, the cap doesn't

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                                        Not true for most EU countries.

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                                          I like the convenience of not losing the cap

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                                          Easier to walk around with an open bottle too since you don't have to hold the cap or put it into your pocket

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