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Corporations are saving the planet!

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  • Z [email protected]

    I like the convenience of not losing the cap

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    Easier to walk around with an open bottle too since you don't have to hold the cap or put it into your pocket

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    • moseschrute@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

      it said good, not safe. It will still kill you but in a good way

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      Killing me softly with this cap.

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        Attached cap prevents it from becoming a macroplastic

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          All EU representants right now 😱😱😱

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          • riddersport@feddit.orgR [email protected]

            Not true for most EU countries.

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            I'm not sure then. Maybe because people litter the cap right when they open it, but end up carrying the partially full drink with them?

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              Really? I never heard that before. What would they care about how their caps are? I can't see it having any impact on them at all. A lot of people got pissed about it when Coca Cola was one of the first to change the caps in line with the regulation, so if anything it hurt Coca Cola.

              Also even though large corporations are almost always totally evil, it's not impossible for them to do something good as well. Probably not for the right reasons, but still, one thing doesn't exclude the other.

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              No idea why they'd want those tethered caps. My speculation (and that's 100% unfounded, so take it as you will) is that they are lobbying for something simple and cheap (tethered caps, plastic straws, etc), to blind people from the real environmental issues that are far more costly to tackle. Kind of like the plastic recycle logo, which is a total scam, but makes people feel good enough to not further question the big corps' recycling practices.

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              • T [email protected]

                Really? I never heard that before. What would they care about how their caps are? I can't see it having any impact on them at all. A lot of people got pissed about it when Coca Cola was one of the first to change the caps in line with the regulation, so if anything it hurt Coca Cola.

                Also even though large corporations are almost always totally evil, it's not impossible for them to do something good as well. Probably not for the right reasons, but still, one thing doesn't exclude the other.

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                It perpetuates the myth of recycling and puts the onus on the consumer and state to recycle instead of the corporations to stop using containers that pollute the environment, will be in the environment for decades without breaking down, and is likely causing yet unknown harm in our bodies since plastic is inside all of us now.

                The first of the "3 R's" is reduce but instead of that being the focus because it hurts their bottom line, they prop up recycling and sell the lie that we can keep living as is if we just recycle more and get better at recycling.

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                • T [email protected]

                  Really? I never heard that before. What would they care about how their caps are? I can't see it having any impact on them at all. A lot of people got pissed about it when Coca Cola was one of the first to change the caps in line with the regulation, so if anything it hurt Coca Cola.

                  Also even though large corporations are almost always totally evil, it's not impossible for them to do something good as well. Probably not for the right reasons, but still, one thing doesn't exclude the other.

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                  My guess - somebody at coca-cola figured out the cap attachment system and they patented it, but had no real plan. Then someone had the idea to lobby the EU to make it a requirement. They can sell it because it will reduce litter to some extent and improve the beverage industry's reputation. But more importantly, coca-cola not already has their manufacturing systems in place to produce these bottle caps. Other bottle manufacturers must now play catch up, constraining the supply of bottles available for EU beverage sales. Now their competitors are scrambling to update their own bottles, which will increase their costs and might delay shipments, lending coca-cola market share. And smaller competitors who outsource their bottling might be forced out of the market entirely if the company they contract with to manufacture their bottles can't or won't comply with this regulation.

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                    Conspiracy theory of mine - I’m European, so not sure if valid for the other side of the pond, but there was a massive campaign here to recycle the bottle caps by donating them for the creation of incubators for premature births. The local authorities placed massive donation boxes shaped like a heart and they were getting filled constantly.

                    Here’s the theory: When the campaign started getting up to speed, they started attaching the bottle caps to the bottle, because, I strongly believe, that out there, there is an absolute evil cunt who only feels something when a baby dies, so he wants fewer donated caps, because deep inside he knows people don’t care enough to snap the cap off.

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                    • riddersport@feddit.orgR [email protected]

                      Not true for most EU countries.

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                      true here in germany

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                      • bruncvik@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                        An EU regulation that was heavily lobbied for by Coca Cola.

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                        The only thing I can find in this direction is a letter from beverage companies (including coca cola) opposing these measures. But that's based on a very shallow google search, so take it with a grain of salt. Where can I find info about what coca cola lobbied for or against?

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                          Conspiracy theory of mine - I’m European, so not sure if valid for the other side of the pond, but there was a massive campaign here to recycle the bottle caps by donating them for the creation of incubators for premature births. The local authorities placed massive donation boxes shaped like a heart and they were getting filled constantly.

                          Here’s the theory: When the campaign started getting up to speed, they started attaching the bottle caps to the bottle, because, I strongly believe, that out there, there is an absolute evil cunt who only feels something when a baby dies, so he wants fewer donated caps, because deep inside he knows people don’t care enough to snap the cap off.

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                          I've seen one if these, so that is what they are for!

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                          • riddersport@feddit.orgR [email protected]

                            Not true for most EU countries.

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                            True for all Euro places that I have been to that had deposits

                            Edit: apparently not, i take everything back

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                              I end up dribbling because the lid gets in my way, but it's fine because I'm helping to offset the pollution caused by a billionaire's private jet.

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                              I remember when cans used to have tabs that tore off. These were changed to the current model, where the tab stays attached after the can is opened.

                              People complained that they couldn't drink properly with the new tab design. I guess they either figured it out, died, started using a glass, or gave up drinks in cans completely, since I haven't heard this complaint in decades.

                              Anyway, I hope you figure it out, comrade! Good luck!

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                              • C [email protected]

                                What do you think happens to bottles after you throw them in the trash? They get shipped off to some landfill where they're buried and forgotten about, that's just littering with extra steps.

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                                In the Netherlands plastic waste is mostly burned, I believe.

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                                  If you keep pushing it further open it has a detent that will hold it open far enough that even my big nose won't touch it... It's an amazing design, better than a screw cap in every way. Well, at least the properly designed ones.

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                                  That last sentence is pulling a whole lot of weight there, there are so many bad implementations out there it's just stupid.

                                  Also why the hell does this extend to all bottles, what is the point of a milk carton having this mandatory. (Pure coincidence, but most milk packaging I've come across after the change falls in the 'bad implementation' category)

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                                    That's an EU regulation, not a corporate measure. And it has drastically decreased the amount of littered bottle caps, so a good thing.

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                                    Littered bottle caps was a problem? Anyway, I hope they do cigarette filters next.

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                                    • L [email protected]

                                      True for all Euro places that I have been to that had deposits

                                      Edit: apparently not, i take everything back

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                                      not Italy

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                                        Cynicism, on the other hand - that's always good.

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                                        • R [email protected]

                                          Littered bottle caps was a problem? Anyway, I hope they do cigarette filters next.

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                                          Those float in the sea, we don't want that iiuc. Is a different plastic too, way more valuable from a recycling perspective (in Argentina hospitals used to collect caps to melt and make toys for childrens)

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