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Me - Buys one hairdryer
ADs for the next 3 weeks - HEY DO YOU WANT A HAIRDRYER!
How many hairdryers do they think a gal buys??!!
I’ve read the explanation that you might be unsatisfied with your choice and looking for a different one.
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I’ve read the explanation that you might be unsatisfied with your choice and looking for a different one.
Seems like cope
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And this is why I blew up in the YouTube feedback and moved to NewPipe
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10-15 years ago:
Me: Buys a gaming PC
Ads: Here's a local pizza delivery service. Want to order?
Fine, somewhat related at least.
Today:
Me: Buys a gaming PC
Ads: what about this gaming PC? Or that one? Maybe this upgrade kit (worse specs than what I bought) is interesting? Like this PSU/CPU/RAM/graphics card/...? Hot gamer singles in your area want to...
Ah, fuck Off!
I once purchased floor mats for my specific car brand. Years ago. For months it tried selling me new floor mats for every brand of car in the world. I still occasionally get an email asking if I want floor mats for cars I've never owned. Like I'm the mat collector or some shit.
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I know I'm winning when it serves an ad in a language I don't speak
I get a lot of those. They also think I'm all types of colors and genders while having different sexual preferences.
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The problem is the ones with all the data have no real use for it.
Google, Facebook, etc. tell you they have data, sell you the ad, run the ad on their own site, then tell you how well the ad did, but not in absolute terms. All in a black box. They don't actually have to use their data, as they're the ones grading their own work, they can just flaunt it to get buyers onboard.
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Making people think that seeing ads that interest them is a concession from the ad industry, to the point that people actively try to help advertisers sell more effectively to them by opting in to it, is the greatest piece of bullshittery I've ever seen in all of human history. I've never seen a more successful grift before or since. Jeffrey Epstein's blackmail scheme involving the world's billionaires has nothing on this reprehensible shit. You gotta admire it, despite it being pure unadulterated evil, regardless of whether or not it's actually effective in the end. The fact remains, we accepted this hilariously-transparent con into our lives with open arms and actually complain when it's not performing well enough.
I agree with the sentiment (ads blocked in so many ways here).
However, people are looking to buy things and ads do work. I used to discover cool products and go to cool events I found because of ads and algorithms.
But I swear I haven't seen anything worth buy for years before I went full anti-ad. Its all temu drop shipped garbage and AI cheating tools now. I don't even get hot singles like the good old days!
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Amazon started showing me ads for appliances and I’m worried they know something about my washing machine that I don’t.
Time to watch repair videos in advance!
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The problem is the ones with all the data have no real use for it.
Google, Facebook, etc. tell you they have data, sell you the ad, run the ad on their own site, then tell you how well the ad did, but not in absolute terms. All in a black box. They don't actually have to use their data, as they're the ones grading their own work, they can just flaunt it to get buyers onboard.
They have plenty of uses for it.
Just because you're not buying the tjing in the ad doesn't mean it has no effect on you.
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Me to any advertiser that slips through my defenses: YOU DON"T KNOW ME!
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When I (rarely) browse without an ad blocker, I notice how much better contextual ads (ads based on the site I am looking at) are compared to personalized ads. For example, on Board Game Geek shows ads for board games, board game accessories, and board game storage solutions. On webcomics I will see an ad for another webcomic that targets a similar audience. Both types of ads are genuinely interesting to me and I click on them on occasion.
When I see "personalized" ads, they are for things I have absolutely no interest in. On a tech news site, I get an ad for hair conditioner (I have short hair and losing it). On a 3d printing site, I am sold t-shirts with pro-police slogans (the fact that I regularly visit lemmy should automatically mark me as a bad target for the product).
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When I (rarely) browse without an ad blocker, I notice how much better contextual ads (ads based on the site I am looking at) are compared to personalized ads. For example, on Board Game Geek shows ads for board games, board game accessories, and board game storage solutions. On webcomics I will see an ad for another webcomic that targets a similar audience. Both types of ads are genuinely interesting to me and I click on them on occasion.
When I see "personalized" ads, they are for things I have absolutely no interest in. On a tech news site, I get an ad for hair conditioner (I have short hair and losing it). On a 3d printing site, I am sold t-shirts with pro-police slogans (the fact that I regularly visit lemmy should automatically mark me as a bad target for the product).
It's not about what they think you might like. It's about what they think they can convince you to buy (or at least change your mind about).
It's never been about "improving your experience" to offer personalised ads.
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Amazon started showing me ads for appliances and I’m worried they know something about my washing machine that I don’t.
Probably someone connected to you has been searching for appliances.
Often that's how they guess you're in the market.
Or they might just know you got a raise, are more of an impulse buyer in August or that one of your machines is nearing a possible end of life date.
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They have plenty of uses for it.
Just because you're not buying the tjing in the ad doesn't mean it has no effect on you.
I work in advertising, I know, it's just that in the industry it's pretty well known that Google, Facebook etc. hugely overinflate their numbers as they arbitrarily decide that it definitely did have an effect on you to make their systems look better
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I agree with the sentiment (ads blocked in so many ways here).
However, people are looking to buy things and ads do work. I used to discover cool products and go to cool events I found because of ads and algorithms.
But I swear I haven't seen anything worth buy for years before I went full anti-ad. Its all temu drop shipped garbage and AI cheating tools now. I don't even get hot singles like the good old days!
The products I can find on my own. I just need an ad to tell me that the type of product exists (I'm aware that only monopolies would benefit from that kind of as).
I'll be choosing the model/brand on merit. If anything the one being heavily advertised is going to be worse (or at least the cost of the ads is included in the price).
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I work in advertising, I know, it's just that in the industry it's pretty well known that Google, Facebook etc. hugely overinflate their numbers as they arbitrarily decide that it definitely did have an effect on you to make their systems look better
Oh. Yeah they aren't efficient with the power they exercise, they just hoard so much of it.
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Most times I specifically Google the specifications of something I want to buy they can't even show me just things that fit that. I even tried Amazon's AI thing and it couldn't do it. I had to scroll through 3-4 pages of wrong things before I found what I wanted. If all this data collection is for ads they are really shitty at it.
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I get a lot of those. They also think I'm all types of colors and genders while having different sexual preferences.
For the last few weeks YouTube has been serving me ads for ladies Gillette razors. My Google profile shows I'm a 41 year old straight male. Most ads are totally not relevant but this one is.... out there.
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I washed my car this weekend and Amazon suggested more soap on sale... Jokes on you, I ain't washing that car again for the next 6 months
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The products I can find on my own. I just need an ad to tell me that the type of product exists (I'm aware that only monopolies would benefit from that kind of as).
I'll be choosing the model/brand on merit. If anything the one being heavily advertised is going to be worse (or at least the cost of the ads is included in the price).
I'd agree with that use of ads.
Hell, my last laptop purchase was because of an ad, but I bought a totally different company's laptop.
