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whats the cheapest legal way to dispose of my dead body so i can stick it to the funeral industry?

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  • R [email protected]

    Most states have laws indicating you must involve a funeral director to ensure the.body is disposed of properly, and then define the licensure requirements for a funeral director to include the types of disposal they can oversee.
    It means they don't need to define every type of burial you're not allowed to do, and there should be a qualified professional to ensure whatever you're doing is okay before you do it.

    The libertarian impulse to say that if it doesn't hurt anyone it should be legal butts into the reality that every time we have that policy for body disposal things tend to go funny in unexpected ways.

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    No, I understand the need for laws around it, for people's safety.
    But the restrictions seem excessive, since it seems likely that there are only a few options for disposal that a funeral director can be licensed to do, rather than training them on what makes something un/safe and letting them use their judgement.
    And strange that they basically made laws that say you must use this private industry. If you're going to legislate that a particular service must be used, then that service should be a public service. But now we're getting off topic lol.

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    • P [email protected]

      fuck thousands for a coffin. or hundreds for an urn. can i legally be burried in butcher paper?

      can i donate my body to science and skip burrial all together?

      i want my final action to be a big middle finger to the funeral industry picking on people in their weakest moments.

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      There's a book called "Stiff" by Mary Roach where she looks into all the various ways to (legally) dispose of your body.

      You can donate it to scientific research (my personal preference) and they will use it as a very accurate crash test dummy (usually).

      Things like the glass in car windows and car crumple zones were invented with the help of such donations, and she claims that on average 14 lives are saved by every body donated.

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      • P [email protected]

        No, I understand the need for laws around it, for people's safety.
        But the restrictions seem excessive, since it seems likely that there are only a few options for disposal that a funeral director can be licensed to do, rather than training them on what makes something un/safe and letting them use their judgement.
        And strange that they basically made laws that say you must use this private industry. If you're going to legislate that a particular service must be used, then that service should be a public service. But now we're getting off topic lol.

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        The laws are usually amongst the oldest ones in a state and only revised pretty infrequently if someone has a particular issue. The dead person constituency is pretty weak, so the matter doesn't get a lot of attention. Basically once they wrote down that embalming chemicals can't be explosive (to prevent the coffin torpedo and general miguided insanity) there hasn't been much need to update them.

        In a lot of ways the funeral industry is better than others, regulation wise. You don't need to do business with anyone. You're dead. It's illegal to act as a funeral director without a license, and the regulations are entirely imposed in the director. If you've got a body to get rid of, you don't have to pay a funeral director. The government will take care of it pretty quickly if no one else will.
        We've got similar restrictions on barbers. Except for the government giving you a haircut if no one else will. They don't particularly care if you're hairy.

        I do agree though, a lot more basic functions of society should be fundamentally provided by the public. "Doctors" would have been a better, but less funny, example above.

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        • hurlingdurling@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

          Do that and your organs will get sold from the back of a van

          https://youtu.be/IjkqxZkaDZI

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          Not in Spain.

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            I want to be launched into the ocean with a catapult

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            Only heathens and foreigners would want a catapult. True noblemen would demand a trebuchet.

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              When I die just throw me in the trash

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              That's against the law lol

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              • T [email protected]

                Only heathens and foreigners would want a catapult. True noblemen would demand a trebuchet.

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                I want it to be with as little dignity as possible, just to ridicule all the pompousness and ceremonial BS
                You can keep your fancy trebuchet!

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                • D [email protected]

                  Become entirely homeless and cut off all contacts and remove all identification so no one will be around to care when you die.

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                  I'm sincerely curious, what is done with corpses like that? And who takes care of it?

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                  • swelter_spark@reddthat.comS [email protected]

                    There are burial grounds that are basically natural parks, where you have to be buried in something biodegradable, like a shroud or pine needle basket, and no grave markers are allowed besides something like a tree or uncut rock. (Burial locations are recorded by gps.) I'd like to be buried in one of these places. Not sure what the cost is, though.

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                    Ironically enough, it sounds expensive because it sounds like someone bought a bunch of land for that purpose to appeal to people who want to be buried naturally. Big money Maker for them.

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                      That's my plan. So far it's working out!

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                      It's been 20 hours so far since you last reported, Still holding up?

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                      • S [email protected]

                        Ashes don't burn any further. That is why they are ashes.

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                        so ull be inside ur homies forever

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                        • S [email protected]

                          Wouldn't that also be funeral industry

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                          Depends on who owns the land, I guess. But they specifically mentioned wanting to be buried in just a wrap or something, which places like this let you do.

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                            Ironically enough, it sounds expensive because it sounds like someone bought a bunch of land for that purpose to appeal to people who want to be buried naturally. Big money Maker for them.

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                            Could be. Being buried in one of the old, forgotten cemetaries that dot the woods in some places might work. You might be able to just add an extra body there and no one would ever see or question it.

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                              I'm sincerely curious, what is done with corpses like that? And who takes care of it?

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                              They just stay in the morgue until there is no room and then cremate you for space.

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                                They just stay in the morgue until there is no room and then cremate you for space.

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                                I wonder why they wouldn't just cremate immediately, which makes me wonder if morgue is waiting for a moment when cremating a non-paying homeless person would be most time-and cost-efficient, horrifying I imagine that they might throw that body in with the next paying customer. You know family members are never allowed to witness a cremation of loved one, even if they're the ones who paid the fee. So hey, morgue might as well throw in a homeless guy, make it a two-for-one deal. Because surely there are costs associated with heating up the crematorium.

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                                • B [email protected]

                                  Not in Spain.

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                                  True, this is more of a USA problem specifically

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                                  • J [email protected]

                                    What in the fuck did I just read?

                                    Anyway the disclaimer at the bottom of the page is gold

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                                    Oz Magazine (the authors of this) fought very high profile court cases regarding accusations of obscenity. Some of the zine staff went on to have very successful careers: Richard Neville and Geoffrey Robertson in particular.

                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oz_(magazine)

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