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UK households could face VPN 'ban' after use skyrockets following Online Safety Bill

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    Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.

    "If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.

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    Wireguard evil, mmkay?

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      WireGuard would be illegal. ISPs would monitor for encrypted traffic streams. All remote workers must now come back to the office. ofcom can see any and all traffic. Your loyalty to the king shall be examined. You choices of media will be scrutinized. The threat of losing your children will be used to force compliance. Welcome to the machine.

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      Can we develop a new VPN protocol where the encrypted traffic is disguised as a 24 hour continuous stream of Never Gonna Give You Up

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        100% Brexit quickly shut up similar movements when people saw how badly it went

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        Alberta seems to have missed that memo.

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        • thenose@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

          Show me a ban that didn’t came with 10x problems. People have their needs even the filthy ones. Especially the filthy ones. Hence will find a way to fulfill it. If there’s no legal way to do so the demand will create an alternative market for it to match the demand…more trouble on the way if that’s the lane the UK choose

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          I'd tentatively say, casually available heroin, morphine and laudanum/opium.

          It obviously caused problems and pushed the market underground but it seems to have worked out.

          I'm not aware of any studies in to this though, so it's only conjecture/guesswork.

          I'll also clearly state I'm not putting them on the same level as this current dystopian bullshittery.

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            100% Brexit quickly shut up similar movements when people saw how badly it went

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            Now if only Trumpism would have shut down extremist right wing idiology globally.

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            • jabjoe@feddit.ukJ [email protected]

              This ends with just another war on encryption.

              When encryption is legal, they can't know what is going on between two points. They going to make is so we can only have encryption to nodes they trust?

              It is dangerously technologically illiterate to wage war on encryption.

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              Jokes on you, e2e encryption is already banned in some cases in the uk afaik. Hence apple dropping some cloud services

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                Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.

                "If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.

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                Maybe if they see significant issues with the populace adhereing to this law they should identify the solution of revoking the unpopular law.

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                  Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.

                  "If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.

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                  "We will force you to do what we want", democracy in action

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                    I'd tentatively say, casually available heroin, morphine and laudanum/opium.

                    It obviously caused problems and pushed the market underground but it seems to have worked out.

                    I'm not aware of any studies in to this though, so it's only conjecture/guesswork.

                    I'll also clearly state I'm not putting them on the same level as this current dystopian bullshittery.

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                    It obviously caused problems and pushed the market underground but it seems to have worked out.

                    "Worked out" is people dieing from tainted drugs of a unknown potency? Youre a fucking monster.

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                      Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.

                      "If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.

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                      There are ways around this even if they do ban vpn. Its a hopeless battle being fought by the ignorant.

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                        Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.

                        "If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.

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                        And there's the other shoe dropping with VPNs now. Didn't even take them an extra fucking year

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                          Maybe if they see significant issues with the populace adhereing to this law they should identify the solution of revoking the unpopular law.

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                          It's the populace that is wrong, not the lawmakers /s

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                          • ultragigagigantic@lemmy.mlU [email protected]

                            It obviously caused problems and pushed the market underground but it seems to have worked out.

                            "Worked out" is people dieing from tainted drugs of a unknown potency? Youre a fucking monster.

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                            Hey now, that's a lot of animosity for a statement that doesn't do much to make a good point.

                            The original question was

                            Show me a ban that didn’t came with 10x problems

                            I posited a conjecture based guess with some basic reasoning and as i said , it was opinion more than provable fact.

                            By "worked out" i meant the overall situation is better after the ban, despite the negative consequences.

                            It seems that was lost on you, but now you know.

                            So let's address your reasoning, such as it is.

                            People died from tainted drugs before the ban, probably a lot from tainted drugs of the type in the ban.

                            Unless you have any evidence those numbers changed significantly after the ban, I'll chalk that up to your opinion.

                            Not a very reasonable one to my eyes, but such are angry people on the internet.

                            I was not aware i needed to provide an example of a ban that resulted in everything being completely fixed after the fact (mainly because that's not how the question was worded) but if that was, in fact, the requirement, my bad.

                            If I'm a monster (in your opinion) because i think the reduction in access to terribly addictive drugs might have overall brought down fatalities and other negative consequences, then i can live with that.

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                              Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.

                              "If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.

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                              Damn. Labor really wants to lose that election to Farage. Good luck to Corbyn and Sultana, I guess.

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                                And there's the other shoe dropping with VPNs now. Didn't even take them an extra fucking year

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                                Didn't even take a week.

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                                  Alberta seems to have missed that memo.

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                                  Damn Alberta; always trying to leave the EU.

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                                    Damn. Labor really wants to lose that election to Farage. Good luck to Corbyn and Sultana, I guess.

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                                    Farage: Gets elected.

                                    Everyone: At least you'll abolish the OSA!

                                    Farage: Nah, I said that because it would make me popular. Amma use the OSA to ban things I consider "woke".

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                                    • dacotaco@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                                      Jokes on you, e2e encryption is already banned in some cases in the uk afaik. Hence apple dropping some cloud services

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                                      If I was black hatter I would be looking at these people like they just dropped a golden goose.

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                                      • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zoneA [email protected]

                                        Farage: Gets elected.

                                        Everyone: At least you'll abolish the OSA!

                                        Farage: Nah, I said that because it would make me popular. Amma use the OSA to ban things I consider "woke".

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                                        Most authoritarian option there is.

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                                        • B [email protected]

                                          Couldn't people just hire a VPS in another country and VPN with that using Wireguard etc, or even use RDP etc to it? Is it even a VPN if you're remotely operating a computer in another country?

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                                          I have a Digital Ocean droplet in Amsterdam, runs OpenVPN server. $6/mo., no one sees my activity, haven't logged into it in years.

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