5 years after Britain left the EU, the full impact of Brexit is still emerging

[alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

It depends on what you consider capitalism.

Suppose you would take the system we have today, put all the stock of every company in a big fund and give everyone equal voting rights in, and profits from, the fund.

That would be a very anarcho-communist world. All economic power would be with the people, not the state, evenly divided, so no one would be richer than anyone else.

But others would call it capitalism because it would be the exact same system we have today.

[fundmecfsresearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

That would not be capitalism at all though.

Your big fund is basically the equivalent of making every company government owned and turning thr government into a direct democracy.

Then there wouldn’t really be a concept of ownership of companies at all… Like there currently is in capitalism, because if everyone owns it, no one owns it, we don’t own the government…

[alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

No it would not be even close to being equivalent to gov+dd, because the government and fund would be totally separate power structures.

You could modify the scheme so that dividends and profits only go to retirees, which would make it a giant retirement fund.

Some people argue China is capitalist and others argue it is socialist or communist.

Truth is, these are all 19th century debates on archaic terms. Every developed country today has a mixed-mode economy with some form of capitalism combined with some form of communism.

It's more fruitful to discuss how we harness the power of each system in a way that benefited humanity.

[dremor@lemmy.world]

Royal don't have much power in the UK.

But the Queen has been known to take great care at her outfit choice, often encompassing a (not always) subtle message, like this one she wore at a time when the Parliament voted (some parts) of Brexit.

https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/12/590x/queen-elizabeth-819612.jpg?r=1686998680160

[madjo@feddit.nl]

But Reform UK needs that "small boats crisis"! It's its only raison d'être.

[thomascrappersghost@feddit.uk]

One small step for Europe, one giant leap backwards for Great Britain.

[shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works]

Would suck for us to lose the pound, but it'd be worth it.

[shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works]

Yea, schengen is not a deterrence but rather something I'd actually like.

[goofschmoofer@lemmy.world]

Going back to the EU with our tail between our legs isn’t going to go down well with anyone so won’t be happening anytime soon.

"we would rather the people of the UK continue to suffer economically than be embarrassed on the international stage for a few years."

That's is strong leadership /s

[recursing@lemmings.world]

Yes. That's another reason to rejoin!

[nogooduser@lemmy.world]

I don’t think that it’s only a leadership thing.

I think that there’d be enough voters who would be too proud to lose the pound that any referendum to rejoin would lose even if opinion poles showed that most people thought that it was a mistake (I don’t actually know what opinion poles say about this topic).

[zombifrancis@sh.itjust.works]

This is British people you're talking about.

[gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works]

The fact that it completely nixes that completely synthetic crisis is one of the reasons this won’t happen in the near future

[taanegl@lemmy.world]

You're Barry from the pub.

Simple as