Iran Leader Says U.S. Talks 'Not Intelligent or Honorable'

[not_rick@lemmy.world]

Agreed on all points

[darkiss@lemmy.world]

But let me tell you something
I live in iran
And our people are indeed really evil
Only our gov is good
All of our people were like: kill people in gaza they are arabs
And they would defend usa like an idiot
Its just so damn annoying
I did think about it
And i think its because of porn
Porn intake is incredibly high in iran
And men are all wild in here they do rape a lot of people
For example i had a friend who got raped three times
I feel sad for him
And yes did you see the stuff about prostitutes and pirn increasing in social medias ?
Im sure this porn is the reason people will loose their mind

[industrystandard@lemmy.world]

Each language points to an entirely different website. Most with completely different topics. Interesting.

[industrystandard@lemmy.world]

They tried to suck less and then America put a knife in their back. Which is not very encouraging.

[not_rick@lemmy.world]

I was not happy when Trump unilaterally pulled out of the deal; I have even wondered if Hamas’ October 7th attack even happens if rapprochement with Iran continued rather than what ended up happening, but I also not convinced Iranian leadership was much interested in changing much beyond getting sanctions relief. US actions aren’t the reason why they’re oppressive to women and LGBT folks or why they’re supplying arms to Russia in aid of their invasion of Ukraine.

[mothmandelorian@lemmy.world]

Why would Iran enter into negotiations with a country that failed to honor them the last time?

[mothmandelorian@lemmy.world]

Go look at the context as he’s saying it makes no sense to negotiate with the guy who tore up the last agreement which Iran was honoring.

[mothmandelorian@lemmy.world]

The Iranian President runs the day to day governance. The Grand Ayatollah focuses on the bigger picture.

[not_rick@lemmy.world]

While I agree with him in this specific context, I don’t find Khamenei intelligent or honorable either, which is why I said what I said.

[industrystandard@lemmy.world]

US actions are partially the reason though. The population could have changed if it was not being actively convinced not to do so.

Instead of moderates, hardliners became more popular because of the constant US threat, refusing to normalize, and not holding up its end of deals.

Iran has a long history of US and European meddling and stealing their oil since 1953. You might not understand but they have plenty of reason to fear the US. And they have been betrayed many times when they let their guard down.

It would be akin to asking why Ukrainians do not love Russian culture after Russia invaded their country and bombed them.

[not_that_guy05@lemmy.world]

Trump is making people agree with the people we don't like due to their stance on people.

Can this be any worse?

[not_rick@lemmy.world]

I know about the CIA/MI6 backed coup in ‘53. I think it definitely led to the revolution, but I also feel that revolution was co-opted by autocratic religious extremists.

I think the crackdowns during the protests that came in the wake of Mahsa Amini’s murder support my view that they’re autocratic. They have taken no concrete steps to improve women’s rights, and any and all presidential candidates must be approved by the Ayatollah so they’re really just controlled opposition at best.

Don’t interpret any of this as saying the US has any moral high ground to stand on, because what bits of American policy I have been proud of are rapidly evaporating.

[unclegrandpa@lemmy.world]

ya....that's going to be the general theme in foreign affairs. from now on... lots of face palms.

[rustydrd@sh.itjust.works]

Yeah, you tell 'em... uh... *checks notes*... Ayatollah Ali Khamenei?

[industrystandard@lemmy.world]

I have not followed recent developments much but I recall the new president partially aborting the new headscarf law. https://apnews.com/article/iran-mandatory-headscarf-hijab-law-protests-26e6015d6e47b18238f0ac4c08c4d33a

Whether this was followed up on I do not know.

[charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works]

You know it can be with these stupid fucks in charge

[uis@lemm.ee]

Even Iran? What world do we live in?

[arafatknee@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Unless you're Israel, the US are backstabbers at the best of times.