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Netherlands: 18 year old Ryan al-Najjar was tied up, beaten, and drowned by her father and brothers for being too Westernized

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  • anonomouswolf@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

    A Syrian refugee who fled to the Netherlands has reportedly confessed to murdering his 18-year-old daughter and dumping her body in a canal before fleeing the country in an apparent admission note sent to a Dutch newspaper.

    Father-of-nine Khaled al-Najjar, 52, wrote in an email sent to De Telegraaf that he had killed his 18-year-old daughter Ryan al-Najjar, urging the publication to report 'I am the one who killed'.

    The confession did not specify exactly why he had decided to murder his daughter, with al-Najjar writing only that he was 'very angry with her', adding: 'The reason is between me and the judge. I will read that in court'.

    But neighbours and friends suspect Ryan's death came as the result of an honour killing, with one claiming they had previously sheltered her when she had fled the family home in fear of retribution from her father.

    Requesting anonymity to prevent any backlash, they told De Telegraaf that Ryan had a Dutch boyfriend, wanted to stop wearing a headscarf and had been beaten by her father who disagreed with her adoption of a Western lifestyle.

    Source:

    1. https://nltimes.nl/2025/06/30/brothers-still-deny-involvement-18-year-old-sisters-honor-killing

    2. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13501735/Syrian-refugee-murders-Westernised-daughter-18-honour-killing-dumps-canal-started-dating-local-Dutch-boy-wanted-stop-wearing-headscarf.html

    3. https://www.atheistrepublic.com/news/fatal-traditions-shocking-honor-killing-netherlands

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    Killed for not acting the way men expect them to act? That sounds pretty USian to be honest.

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    • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

      Ah ok, you might want to update the post title and URL fields with this article's link and the article's title. Else the mods will likely remove it, see the community rules

      The article you linked doesn't confirm the current title you have up

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      Thanks will do

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      • N [email protected]

        I mean, yes, because people are horrible and culture has a way of trumping religion. "Honor" killings are a thing in the Middle East and South Asia to varying degrees and I hate it, but Islam is—if anything—a restraining force on such actions and a framework within which people who commit them can be punished.

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        Do the people committing these acts typically deny that their religious views played a role (or were the sole reason) for what they did?

        I'm sorry, I just don't buy it. We know how Islam generally treats women in practice. We know how they view chastity. We know how some of them feel about girls even going to school.

        Why else would they murder their child, if not because of their religious views?

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          Only religions give permission for people to kill their children.

          Don't think that this is the only religion that does this. They all do. They all do this shit. "My fictional god is more important than my child". "No matter what I do, my fictional god will forgive me!"

          It's fucking disgusting, and you are too if you support religions.

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          But abortion? Can't do that, you're killing a child!

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          • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

            I'm not sure if those sources are any better since I can't find anything about them. According to the other comment, there should be other articles about this case since it was on their national news for some time.

            Also, some of those articles are dated from 1 year ago. Is there a reason you're posting this now, such as new updates? Else it would be against the community rules

            Edit: The articles I found suggest that the father admitted to it, while the brothers deny involvement and there is another hearing coming up. What I found weird though was the screenshot states the brothers involvement as a fact.

            I looked around for the logo on the screenshot, and it seems to be this organization

            https://catalyticministries.com/

            This other source (which I'm also unfamiliar with) points out that this organization is controversial

            https://ministrywatch.com/global-catalytic-ministries-hides-behind-veil-of-secrecy/

            It also summarizes the purpose of the org above:

            GCM offers varying descriptions of its work, many of them characterized by grandiose but unverified claims, such as “transforming Muslims worldwide,” “750 churches planted throughout the Middle East and Central Asia,” and “bringing disciple-making methods to the West to build a decentralized network of discipleship communities that will prepare America for the end time harvest.”

            Which makes the source seem, less credible...

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            @[email protected] I've added some more context around the screenshot. Would you be able to replace it with your recent article link?

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            • hark@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

              The religion prescribes death for being too westernized?

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              I once heard a boy about 15-17 talk openly and loudly on the bus whilst on the phone about how he's going to kill his sister because of who she's dating and he didn't like it (in England). He said that he previously hit her to hit some sense in to her. He was Pakistani and boasting about this on the phone. I saw another boy about the same age shouting at a girl also about the same age, "hurry up you fat slut" and "f*cking get up these steps whore" forcing her to walk up and down steps in a library because she was honestly, slightly chubby by today's standards, in an attempt to make her slim. I touched her arm to get her attention as she passed and said she didn't have to put up with this and she needs to report it, whilst another girl overheard it and was like wtf and we both reported it. She kept apologising for him about how he didn't mean it and so on. He came up to me and was like 'bro, bro, what you think you doin' touchin' my girl? touch her again and i'll knock you out'. I had to stop myself from laughing because this kid was like a 1.6m skinny shit!

              Still, this is normal in their culture. You either understand, or you really can't imagine how normalised it is.

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              • N [email protected]

                They're not called honor killings in Islam; you're looking for hudood for the general category including punishment for illegal sexual conduct (known as Zina). The latter article has the rules you're asking for.

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                Other Sunni schools of jurisprudence rely on early Islamic scholars who state that a fetus can "sleep and stop developing for 5 years in a womb"

                Glad to hear this justice system is so smart, well developed and based on ground realities!

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                • anonomouswolf@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                  A Syrian refugee who fled to the Netherlands has reportedly confessed to murdering his 18-year-old daughter and dumping her body in a canal before fleeing the country in an apparent admission note sent to a Dutch newspaper.

                  Father-of-nine Khaled al-Najjar, 52, wrote in an email sent to De Telegraaf that he had killed his 18-year-old daughter Ryan al-Najjar, urging the publication to report 'I am the one who killed'.

                  The confession did not specify exactly why he had decided to murder his daughter, with al-Najjar writing only that he was 'very angry with her', adding: 'The reason is between me and the judge. I will read that in court'.

                  But neighbours and friends suspect Ryan's death came as the result of an honour killing, with one claiming they had previously sheltered her when she had fled the family home in fear of retribution from her father.

                  Requesting anonymity to prevent any backlash, they told De Telegraaf that Ryan had a Dutch boyfriend, wanted to stop wearing a headscarf and had been beaten by her father who disagreed with her adoption of a Western lifestyle.

                  Source:

                  1. https://nltimes.nl/2025/06/30/brothers-still-deny-involvement-18-year-old-sisters-honor-killing

                  2. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13501735/Syrian-refugee-murders-Westernised-daughter-18-honour-killing-dumps-canal-started-dating-local-Dutch-boy-wanted-stop-wearing-headscarf.html

                  3. https://www.atheistrepublic.com/news/fatal-traditions-shocking-honor-killing-netherlands

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                  What a disgusting thing for a human being to do.

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                  • anonomouswolf@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                    A Syrian refugee who fled to the Netherlands has reportedly confessed to murdering his 18-year-old daughter and dumping her body in a canal before fleeing the country in an apparent admission note sent to a Dutch newspaper.

                    Father-of-nine Khaled al-Najjar, 52, wrote in an email sent to De Telegraaf that he had killed his 18-year-old daughter Ryan al-Najjar, urging the publication to report 'I am the one who killed'.

                    The confession did not specify exactly why he had decided to murder his daughter, with al-Najjar writing only that he was 'very angry with her', adding: 'The reason is between me and the judge. I will read that in court'.

                    But neighbours and friends suspect Ryan's death came as the result of an honour killing, with one claiming they had previously sheltered her when she had fled the family home in fear of retribution from her father.

                    Requesting anonymity to prevent any backlash, they told De Telegraaf that Ryan had a Dutch boyfriend, wanted to stop wearing a headscarf and had been beaten by her father who disagreed with her adoption of a Western lifestyle.

                    Source:

                    1. https://nltimes.nl/2025/06/30/brothers-still-deny-involvement-18-year-old-sisters-honor-killing

                    2. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13501735/Syrian-refugee-murders-Westernised-daughter-18-honour-killing-dumps-canal-started-dating-local-Dutch-boy-wanted-stop-wearing-headscarf.html

                    3. https://www.atheistrepublic.com/news/fatal-traditions-shocking-honor-killing-netherlands

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                    Islam is a plague.

                    I dont understand why leftists try and platform this terrible religion.

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                    • hark@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

                      The religion prescribes death for being too westernized?

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                      The religion demands all who don't follow the rules be put to death. Especially if you're a woman.

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                      • G [email protected]

                        You are clueless about Islam. Please read the freaking Quran and the Hadiths there you have all the info you need, this religion is extremist by it's own nature. You seem stuck in the something something racism, Islam is not a race by the way, it is another flavor of far right but on steroids, which happened to be enemies of the Christian far right, but the enemy of our enemy is not our friend. How the left is defending this particular religion is crazy.

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                        How the left is defending this particular religion is crazy.

                        1. All the Abrahamic religions have these extremists.

                        2. Name any of the other big three that have multiple genocides against their followers happening right now.

                        You're punching down by signaling out Islam, that's why you keep getting the feedback you're complaining about

                        Has no one tried explaining that to you yet?

                        Edit:

                        On a completely unrelated note, it's always weird when I stop replying to one account about this, another account with even less activity usually picks up right where the other left off ..

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                          Islam is a plague.

                          I dont understand why leftists try and platform this terrible religion.

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                          And of course, there it is.

                          Ryan’s murder is horrifying. She deserved safety, freedom, and support—but instead, she was failed by the people closest to her and by institutions meant to protect her. What happened to her wasn’t about Islam—it was about patriarchal control and deadly misogyny cloaked in the language of religion.

                          And that’s not unique to Islam. In ultra-Orthodox Jewish communities, women have been attacked for dressing “immodestly” or denied divorces for years. In some conservative Christian circles, honor, shame, and purity culture have been used to justify abuse, disownment, or worse. This kind of violence is rooted in power, not faith.

                          It is fundamentalist religion in general that puts women at risk. No single one is devoid of such attacks.

                          It’s wrong to exploit Ryan’s death to stoke Islamophobia. Doing so ignores the broader pattern of gender-based violence that exists across cultures and religions. If we really care about preventing tragedies like this, we should be talking about how to hold abusers accountable, how to recognize warning signs, and how to protect women and girls from systems that excuse control as “tradition.”

                          Blaming one single faith just distracts from real solutions.

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                          • anonomouswolf@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                            A Syrian refugee who fled to the Netherlands has reportedly confessed to murdering his 18-year-old daughter and dumping her body in a canal before fleeing the country in an apparent admission note sent to a Dutch newspaper.

                            Father-of-nine Khaled al-Najjar, 52, wrote in an email sent to De Telegraaf that he had killed his 18-year-old daughter Ryan al-Najjar, urging the publication to report 'I am the one who killed'.

                            The confession did not specify exactly why he had decided to murder his daughter, with al-Najjar writing only that he was 'very angry with her', adding: 'The reason is between me and the judge. I will read that in court'.

                            But neighbours and friends suspect Ryan's death came as the result of an honour killing, with one claiming they had previously sheltered her when she had fled the family home in fear of retribution from her father.

                            Requesting anonymity to prevent any backlash, they told De Telegraaf that Ryan had a Dutch boyfriend, wanted to stop wearing a headscarf and had been beaten by her father who disagreed with her adoption of a Western lifestyle.

                            Source:

                            1. https://nltimes.nl/2025/06/30/brothers-still-deny-involvement-18-year-old-sisters-honor-killing

                            2. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13501735/Syrian-refugee-murders-Westernised-daughter-18-honour-killing-dumps-canal-started-dating-local-Dutch-boy-wanted-stop-wearing-headscarf.html

                            3. https://www.atheistrepublic.com/news/fatal-traditions-shocking-honor-killing-netherlands

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                            All Muslim women and children and NO men whatsoever should be allowed to immigrate.

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                              And of course, there it is.

                              Ryan’s murder is horrifying. She deserved safety, freedom, and support—but instead, she was failed by the people closest to her and by institutions meant to protect her. What happened to her wasn’t about Islam—it was about patriarchal control and deadly misogyny cloaked in the language of religion.

                              And that’s not unique to Islam. In ultra-Orthodox Jewish communities, women have been attacked for dressing “immodestly” or denied divorces for years. In some conservative Christian circles, honor, shame, and purity culture have been used to justify abuse, disownment, or worse. This kind of violence is rooted in power, not faith.

                              It is fundamentalist religion in general that puts women at risk. No single one is devoid of such attacks.

                              It’s wrong to exploit Ryan’s death to stoke Islamophobia. Doing so ignores the broader pattern of gender-based violence that exists across cultures and religions. If we really care about preventing tragedies like this, we should be talking about how to hold abusers accountable, how to recognize warning signs, and how to protect women and girls from systems that excuse control as “tradition.”

                              Blaming one single faith just distracts from real solutions.

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                              All religions are a monstrous evil.

                              If you believe otherwise, you are comically naive and attitudes like yours are partly responsible for this child’s death.

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                              • R [email protected]

                                And of course, there it is.

                                Ryan’s murder is horrifying. She deserved safety, freedom, and support—but instead, she was failed by the people closest to her and by institutions meant to protect her. What happened to her wasn’t about Islam—it was about patriarchal control and deadly misogyny cloaked in the language of religion.

                                And that’s not unique to Islam. In ultra-Orthodox Jewish communities, women have been attacked for dressing “immodestly” or denied divorces for years. In some conservative Christian circles, honor, shame, and purity culture have been used to justify abuse, disownment, or worse. This kind of violence is rooted in power, not faith.

                                It is fundamentalist religion in general that puts women at risk. No single one is devoid of such attacks.

                                It’s wrong to exploit Ryan’s death to stoke Islamophobia. Doing so ignores the broader pattern of gender-based violence that exists across cultures and religions. If we really care about preventing tragedies like this, we should be talking about how to hold abusers accountable, how to recognize warning signs, and how to protect women and girls from systems that excuse control as “tradition.”

                                Blaming one single faith just distracts from real solutions.

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                                It is fundamentalist religion in general that puts women at risk.

                                Yeah, I get it, fundamentalists are terrible.

                                But this one was a Muslim and leftists, for some reason, like to platform Islam while this bullshit happens.

                                Islam, and pretty much every other religion, is an absolute plague on humanity.

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                                • R [email protected]

                                  Killed for not acting the way men expect them to act? That sounds pretty USian to be honest.

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                                  It sounds like the Abrahamic cults, whose tentacles are all over the western world.

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                                    Islam is a plague.

                                    I dont understand why leftists try and platform this terrible religion.

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                                    The idea of using your religion as an excuse to kill people is not exclusive to Islam. There are actually quite a few instances in the christian bible where people kill due to religion.

                                    If you actually want to get away from religious killing, as a society, we must denounce religion as a whole. Blaming one religion is just stirring the pot.

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                                    • anonomouswolf@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                                      A Syrian refugee who fled to the Netherlands has reportedly confessed to murdering his 18-year-old daughter and dumping her body in a canal before fleeing the country in an apparent admission note sent to a Dutch newspaper.

                                      Father-of-nine Khaled al-Najjar, 52, wrote in an email sent to De Telegraaf that he had killed his 18-year-old daughter Ryan al-Najjar, urging the publication to report 'I am the one who killed'.

                                      The confession did not specify exactly why he had decided to murder his daughter, with al-Najjar writing only that he was 'very angry with her', adding: 'The reason is between me and the judge. I will read that in court'.

                                      But neighbours and friends suspect Ryan's death came as the result of an honour killing, with one claiming they had previously sheltered her when she had fled the family home in fear of retribution from her father.

                                      Requesting anonymity to prevent any backlash, they told De Telegraaf that Ryan had a Dutch boyfriend, wanted to stop wearing a headscarf and had been beaten by her father who disagreed with her adoption of a Western lifestyle.

                                      Source:

                                      1. https://nltimes.nl/2025/06/30/brothers-still-deny-involvement-18-year-old-sisters-honor-killing

                                      2. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13501735/Syrian-refugee-murders-Westernised-daughter-18-honour-killing-dumps-canal-started-dating-local-Dutch-boy-wanted-stop-wearing-headscarf.html

                                      3. https://www.atheistrepublic.com/news/fatal-traditions-shocking-honor-killing-netherlands

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                                      First question, why the fuck did they flee or move to the Netherlands? Money and excellent public services. Bosnia-Herzegovina or Turkey would be the more suited choices to maintain the Sharia rules.

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                                        First question, why the fuck did they flee or move to the Netherlands? Money and excellent public services. Bosnia-Herzegovina or Turkey would be the more suited choices to maintain the Sharia rules.

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                                        Not everyone has the privilege to choose where they move.

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                                          Islam is a plague.

                                          I dont understand why leftists try and platform this terrible religion.

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                                          Lmao funny how fascist pos suddenly care about women's right when it comes to shitting on brown people

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