I genuinely can't wait for Mobile Linux to become a thing
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I don't expect Arch Linux ARM to have wider support than Ubuntu Touch or postmarketOS.
The later 2 projects aim to support Android devices, while (based on my understanding) Arch Linux ARM mainly targets SBCs (single board computers), like Raspberry Pi.
Arch Linux ARM nowadays, probably, also serves as a base for Asahi, but this does not help with Android device compatibility.
But ubuntu SUCKS.
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I'm an /e/os user and all I can say is even though it sucks the least among its competition, it STILL SUCKS! Not to downplay the immense effort put in by the devs and maintainers of course. Providing a privacy-respecting phone OS to ordinary people isn't just a good deed, it's necessary for a vibrant and diverse digital society. But still, we can all strive for better.
Define, "sucks"
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But ubuntu SUCKS.
As a Debian and NixOS user, I can confirm that Ubuntu sucks
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But Linux for mobile exists, it is just not popular. For instance you can install Ubuntu Touch on certain phones.
Yeah, like the Nexus 5. Not anything you'd want to actually use today.
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still better than ios lol
Graphene rules
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still better than ios lol
Gabe please make Linux mobile phone.
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I am currently considering switching to a 3rd custom rom on my xiaomi since both of the ones I have tried while better than the stock one by miles, seem to have no activity surrounding them (one was last updated almost 2 years ago and the one I am currently on has been updated in october).
Just sucks that its notsuch a mainline phone rhat gets lota of custom ROM support.
If it is LineageOS you can always pick up the build by yourself and create your own images you can flash. Follow the Build for yourself Link the the respective device page.
Main problem will be getting the binary blobs needed for your device as it requires a rooted device or a trusted source.
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If it is LineageOS you can always pick up the build by yourself and create your own images you can flash. Follow the Build for yourself Link the the respective device page.
Main problem will be getting the binary blobs needed for your device as it requires a rooted device or a trusted source.
I know that someone already did a lineage OS release(the 2 year old one). Need to check the github but is there a chance those blobs could be found there?
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Define, "sucks"
The complaints I see about custom OS the most:
- Bank or payment apps don't work due to Play Integrity API (blame Google)
- Some other Google apps don't work correctly (well... duh)
- Obscure functionality that is usually overlooked or intentionally ignored, but is a complete dealbreaker for that user.
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still better than ios lol
Be the change you want to see in the world.-- Daffy Duck
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I'm an /e/os user and all I can say is even though it sucks the least among its competition, it STILL SUCKS! Not to downplay the immense effort put in by the devs and maintainers of course. Providing a privacy-respecting phone OS to ordinary people isn't just a good deed, it's necessary for a vibrant and diverse digital society. But still, we can all strive for better.
By the way, do you know of any other OS except for GrafinoS that does not bundle any MicroG or other tether to Google? I like /e/os, but MicroG bothers me. Can it be uninstalled?
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The complaints I see about custom OS the most:
- Bank or payment apps don't work due to Play Integrity API (blame Google)
- Some other Google apps don't work correctly (well... duh)
- Obscure functionality that is usually overlooked or intentionally ignored, but is a complete dealbreaker for that user.
wrote last edited by [email protected]i never experienced point 2 or 3 in all my years of using them.
the problem for me is usually integrity api.
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By the way, do you know of any other OS except for GrafinoS that does not bundle any MicroG or other tether to Google? I like /e/os, but MicroG bothers me. Can it be uninstalled?
I'm not sure but afaik CalyxOS and LMODroid does that.
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Nah, /e/os and GrapheneOS rule!
Yep, they put in a lot of effort into the security and open source stuff, but at least on Graphene, the bundled apps are severely outdated aosp apps, they don't even support material you, meanwhile current aosp apps do support it, as can be seen on Lineage. The calculator app looks straight from Android 5 or probably earlier.
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Graphene rules
I'm currently trying to decide between private and repairable. Pixel with Graphene or an HMD Skyline. Wish Fairphone was an option.
How's picture quality with Graphene? How big a downgrade is it from the one packed on the stock pixel?
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The complaints I see about custom OS the most:
- Bank or payment apps don't work due to Play Integrity API (blame Google)
- Some other Google apps don't work correctly (well... duh)
- Obscure functionality that is usually overlooked or intentionally ignored, but is a complete dealbreaker for that user.
My banking app works on GrapheneOS. It didn't even need any of the compatibility settings to be turned. My experience has been smoother than the Android shipped with the device. I barely use Google apps apart from yt and haven't found any obscure issues yet. Is GrapheneOS just really good compared to others or did I get lucky with my bank and the features I use?
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I'm currently trying to decide between private and repairable. Pixel with Graphene or an HMD Skyline. Wish Fairphone was an option.
How's picture quality with Graphene? How big a downgrade is it from the one packed on the stock pixel?
I only use the camera for casual pictures and it's fine. It's still the same lenses and sensors after all. The camera app obviously isn't as all singing all dancing as stock but perfectly functional, has all the features you'd expect.
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still better than ios lol
Iām only using iOS because android is worse. Neither of them make me happy. IOS is just less terrible than Android.
The problem with a Linux phone is that thereās no market for it, and developing one is only possible if you fundamentally change what a Linux phone means thereby ruining it but getting profitability and therefore carrier support and manufacturer profitability.
We donāt get what we want. They do.
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achtually, every Android phone is using the Linux kernel
achtually, every Android phone is using the Linux kernel
Yes and support for GNU/Linux applications is currently in beta.
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still better than ios lol
