why the hell cant men stay out of women-only spaces?

[giuseppeandtheyeti@midwest.social]

Say I'm a trans female. Can I post then? Trans man? Gay man? Gay woman?

It's self policing. If they're being obnoxious or killing the environment or culture of the space, downvote/block/report and move on.

[originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com]

purple!

not sure how tossing irrelevant info matter, but there ya go!

[implyingimplications@lemmy.ca]

the rules are clearly presented

I use Voyager. Community rules are hidden unless you specifically go to that community page, open the menu, and select "sidebar". It's incredibly easy to miss.

If a community only wants some people posting then a quick fix is to not allow just anyone to post to it.

[theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world]

[satansmaggotycumfart@lemmy.world]

Knowing that he loved coke and alcohol at this time makes this hairstyle make sense.

[originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com]

the rules are obvious, and trans inclusive.

if it wasnt for the sheer volume of [presumed] idiots who cant seem to follow those rules i wouldnt have posted. the points is the reports and heavy moderation required.

its like digital mansplaining

[taco2112@lemmy.world]

People in general want to be included and some even more so when they’re told they’re not allowed in.

It’s easy when it’s a physical space, ropes and security keep the riff raff out. With online spaces, it requires active moderation, mods who are willing to enforce the rules and ban those that violate them.

[dwindling7373@feddit.it]

As a woman there's no way you are not aware of exactly why that happens and the kind of guys that would do it on purpose...

On accident? State it more clearly? Maybe throw in an explanation about why it's that way so you don't end up endlessly arguing the same stuff forever.

Damn that's some turbo manmansplaining right here xD

[pipster@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

I think generally if somebody does this genuinely they are politely told the rules but then some feel hard done by and start whining about it.

[hddsx@lemmy.ca]

Do you have examples of women only communities? Because I have probably inadvertently done so. Admittedly, I probably also haven’t read the rules as my mobile client makes that stuff kind of hidden.

I love the posts that come out witchesvspatriachy for example. That’s definitely female dominated, but I didn’t read the rules because, well, they didn’t show up in the all feed, so I don’t know if I shouldn’t post.

I also think it’s good to get some outside opinion, occasionally, but female spaces need to remain female dominated for good reason.

/me shrugs. Sorry if I’ve been the point of your annoyance

[hddsx@lemmy.ca]

This is a false equivalency, my dude. There are definitely good reasons for people who generally face systemic discrimination (ie. Women, black people) to have separate communities from those they face discrimination from (men, white people). It’s not like they are trying to divorce themselves from society at large.

[witheyeandclaw@lemmy.sdf.org]

Something about a women only space triggers people. Just look at the people replying here. They can't seem to help themselves.

[thealbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

Lmao the thread shows all the exact problems laid bare.

You got the denial guy, you got the false equivalency guy, you got the not all men guy, just incredible they're all here.

[baronvonj@lemmy.world]

I'm not standing up for Lembot's motivations, I don't know Lembot. But their comment on its own was pointing to a perception of your "What the fuck is wrong with you" remark generalizing intrusive behavior to all men, rather than just the intrusive men.

[unmagical@lemmy.ml]

Is this about the public community, Women's stuff, federated on the public fediverse who's posts get aggregated to the public all feed and which is accessed by a diverse set of software solutions that may or may not force the community rules to be visible before viewing post content?

I try not to engage cause I know about the community, but golly, I can't imagine how a man might stumble upon that and interact.

[cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

[guyfawkes@midwest.social]

Never been to a concert I see

[unmagical@lemmy.ml]

If the community is private you might have a point, but there are very public women's only communities on this platform who's conversations show up in the aggregate feeds--that's not just "conversing amongst themselves."

[originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com]

right! its like they came out of the woodwork to prove my point!

[hddsx@lemmy.ca]

I know you edited your post, which still has things I think are wrong, but OP is absolutely correct based on your initial post… JS