why the hell cant men stay out of women-only spaces?

[hddsx@lemmy.ca]

Do you have examples of women only communities? Because I have probably inadvertently done so. Admittedly, I probably also haven’t read the rules as my mobile client makes that stuff kind of hidden.

I love the posts that come out witchesvspatriachy for example. That’s definitely female dominated, but I didn’t read the rules because, well, they didn’t show up in the all feed, so I don’t know if I shouldn’t post.

I also think it’s good to get some outside opinion, occasionally, but female spaces need to remain female dominated for good reason.

/me shrugs. Sorry if I’ve been the point of your annoyance

[hddsx@lemmy.ca]

This is a false equivalency, my dude. There are definitely good reasons for people who generally face systemic discrimination (ie. Women, black people) to have separate communities from those they face discrimination from (men, white people). It’s not like they are trying to divorce themselves from society at large.

[witheyeandclaw@lemmy.sdf.org]

Something about a women only space triggers people. Just look at the people replying here. They can't seem to help themselves.

[thealbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

Lmao the thread shows all the exact problems laid bare.

You got the denial guy, you got the false equivalency guy, you got the not all men guy, just incredible they're all here.

[baronvonj@lemmy.world]

I'm not standing up for Lembot's motivations, I don't know Lembot. But their comment on its own was pointing to a perception of your "What the fuck is wrong with you" remark generalizing intrusive behavior to all men, rather than just the intrusive men.

[unmagical@lemmy.ml]

Is this about the public community, Women's stuff, federated on the public fediverse who's posts get aggregated to the public all feed and which is accessed by a diverse set of software solutions that may or may not force the community rules to be visible before viewing post content?

I try not to engage cause I know about the community, but golly, I can't imagine how a man might stumble upon that and interact.

[cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

[guyfawkes@midwest.social]

Never been to a concert I see

[unmagical@lemmy.ml]

If the community is private you might have a point, but there are very public women's only communities on this platform who's conversations show up in the aggregate feeds--that's not just "conversing amongst themselves."

[originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com]

right! its like they came out of the woodwork to prove my point!

[hddsx@lemmy.ca]

I know you edited your post, which still has things I think are wrong, but OP is absolutely correct based on your initial post… JS

[theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world]

My edit was only adding the 2nd paragraph. And no, it is not wrong and the OP is not correct

[thealbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

Hold on, lemme willfully misinterpret your intent and reframe it so it's about meeee. I'm the good one let me innnnn

[neidu3@sh.itjust.works]

Yup, this is it for me. I blocked womenstuff, mostly so that they wouldn't have to deal with me stumbling in from sorting all by new.

[neidu3@sh.itjust.works]

Forgot one: randomly stumbled in after sorting by new guys.

I blocked womenstuff for their sake, not mine.

[wazzupdog@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

I seriously hope you mean this as a joke.

[bronzebeard@lemmy.zip]

The rules are not clearly presented when you're just scrolling through a generic AllPost feed. I've almost commented to one of these just the other day before realizing at the last second what community it was.

Also, when you're discussing men, especially negatively, and expect men to not jump in to defend themselves, that's a bit naive to think they'll stay out of it. Some of those threads can get really echo chamber and dogpile feeling.

And people would be throwing a shit fit if the genders were reversed here. I'm sure there are some bitter people out there that don't like the double standard. There seems to be a lot of overgeneralization where the bad behavior of a select few gets broadly painted onto the entire gender. This, again, has a double standard of being an acceptable thing to do, to the point that even within this thread someone is mocking others for pointing out "not all men" as a response.

[beigeagenda@lemmy.ca]

I saw a post, added a relevant wiki link, and then my comment was deleted, and that's fair enough as I didn't read the rules beforehand.

To reduce the constant barrage of mansplaining I suggest adding a sticky top level comment (or something better), or some sort of filter before a comment is added if possible.

[atro_city@fedia.io]

What's wrong with you? Are you OK hun?

[deathbybigsad@sh.itjust.works]

Please present yourself to JK Rowling's TERF Inspection Booth /s