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What happens to Firefox forks if Firefox dies?

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  • E [email protected]

    You are missing the point. They care when money is involved, and yet they failed to maintain a browser engine, which would have (for the better or for the worse) a central part of most people's computing.

    And yet, despite the browser being so important... They gave up and handed the cake to Google.

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    Then let me correct myself.

    Microsoft sucks in general and cant get shit right.

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      With the enshittification of all-things-Google, a lot of us have left Chromium-based browsers for Firefox. But still, over the last 15 years, Firefox has gone from 30%+ market share to about 6% now.

      With the big backlash against them over the last week, I've seen a number of people advocating for Librewolf and Waterfox -- Firefox forks focused on security and privacy -- but if Firefox loses what little revenue it has left, what will become of the forks if Firefox dies?

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      Most will simply evaporate.

      A few will continue to be maintained, but eventually drop off with like one or two slightly stangant active forks.

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      • dan@upvote.auD [email protected]

        Honestly, people are overreacting to the ToS changes. Mozilla haven't actually changed what they're doing; they're just removing text they legally can't include since the definition of "selling data" varies by jurisdiction. It doesn't always mean literally selling user data. California is very strict about it for example.

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        What? Overreacting to. We store everything you type and will sell it??

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          With the enshittification of all-things-Google, a lot of us have left Chromium-based browsers for Firefox. But still, over the last 15 years, Firefox has gone from 30%+ market share to about 6% now.

          With the big backlash against them over the last week, I've seen a number of people advocating for Librewolf and Waterfox -- Firefox forks focused on security and privacy -- but if Firefox loses what little revenue it has left, what will become of the forks if Firefox dies?

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          Well I hope someone takes up the source code and continuea to maintain it

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            What? Overreacting to. We store everything you type and will sell it??

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            Firefox don't store everything you type though.

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            • dan@upvote.auD [email protected]

              Firefox don't store everything you type though.

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              When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox.

              And they removed the passage that states they will never sell your data

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                When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox.

                And they removed the passage that states they will never sell your data

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                They already updated it to make the language clearer. This is the new version:

                You give Mozilla the rights necessary to operate Firefox. This includes processing your data as we describe in the Firefox Privacy Notice. It also includes a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license for the purpose of doing as you request with the content you input in Firefox. This does not give Mozilla any ownership in that content.

                And they removed the passage that states they will never sell your data

                That's because the definition of "sell data" varies by jurisdiction, so they can't make that claim (nor can any company that uses ads). In particular, it's very strict in California's CCPA, and includes third parties using data for analytical purposes even if no payment is made.

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