UK Poll:Belief that Britain was right to vote to leave The EU falls to new low.

[alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

We're not strangers, we're Europeans.

In my small village of the Netherlands there are graves of RAF pilots. And in NATO, we are still allies.

My wife made scones and lemon curd this weekend.

My favourite heat pump geek (urban plumbers on youtube) is a Polish guy living and working in the UK.

All these attempts by people trying to divide Europeans are pathetic. It's sad that many people fall for it, because we share a culture and a history.

The UK rejoining the EU in some shape or form (perhaps the EEA) is just a matter of time. Same with Ukraine.

And personally, I think we should already start planning on how to form strategic defense and trade alliances with Turkey, Egypt and a post-Putin Russia. That will solidify a peaceful and prosperous 21st century in Europe and West-Asia.

[alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

I agree.

There is a lot of BS about setting an example and punishing them, but I have not seen anyone who actually knows how the process works say anything remotely like that.

It would also be a massive case of the EU cutting off it's nose to spite it's face. That's just not how the EU rolls.

The normal process of joining has requirements geared towards poor peripheral countries that the UK already meets or exceeds.

The UK can join anytime it wishes and there is even a lot of room to negotiate mutually beneficial terms.

[honorarymancunian@lemmy.world]

I fucking hate past you, but respect current you

[gajustempus@feddit.org]

there's some truth in your statement.

Then again - looking at Hungary for example, it's better to leave someone outside if said somebody has clear tendencies of being a troublemaker.

A good relationship is way better than no relationship. But no relationship is ENORMOUSLY better than a toxic relationship. And the UK track record isn't that great in that regard...

[gajustempus@feddit.org]

you are aware you just gave THE best plea on why the EU should NOT think about letting UK back in, right?

[absolutechicagodog@lemm.ee]

I do think it would be fair to require them to adopt the Euro this time around, for example. But even if that doesn't happen as long as everyone is better with the UK in then it's worth it.

[pringles@lemm.ee]

Any country joining the EU pledges to join the euro, but there are no deadlines defined and there is little animo to push countries to join, but technically it's part of the deal.

[calavera@lemm.ee]

Think it was wrong today leave is different to think they should return

[idkwhatusernametoputherelolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

"How to unsink the titanic, pls help"

[merc@sh.itjust.works]

I'm very happy when people start their graphs at 0. Starting at any other number is an easy way to "lie with statistics".

[whome@discuss.tchncs.de]

Come back and lose all previous privileges.

[canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org]

And, that's still a good deal, actually.

[canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org]

As there's gradually enough distance that people can claim it wasn't their idea, more and more of will be willing to admit it was a really bad one.

[canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org]

Yeah, if rejoining happens, it's going to be at a point where Brexit is ancient history in political terms. This shouldn't really be downvoted.

It was a dumb decision, but a deeply democratic one, and rolling it back isn't a good look to say the least.

[aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

I keenly remember how one of the things the Leavers were pushing as a benefit of leaving the EU was to be able to get closer to the US. Oopsie...

Yet another in a long line of bollocks from the Brexiters, swallowed by a large percentage of the British Electorate (not just in the Referendum but even in Parliamentary Elections after it where they repeatedly voted the Leave leaders into Government).

Mind you, as somebody who left the country after that (I was an EU immigrant over there for more than a decade) I still look at Britain as guide for the rest of Europe, since they seem to have been 10 years ahead of most of Europe in their sliding towards Fascism (even in their version of it is conveyed by millionaire/billionaire posh boys rather than nouveau riche construction magnates like in the US)

[foobarrington@lemmy.world]

Anything above their old terms would send a very bad signal to any EU members. There are arguments to be made anywhere between "same rules as new states" and "old rules all the way", but more than that means setting the EU up for other states to follow.

[azimir@lemmy.ml]

It's a great deal. Go on the Euro, be a normal member and have the huge death of benefits from the single market that the UK benefitted from for generations. It's a huge win for the UK if the EU would be that generous.

[giveover@feddit.uk]

Maybe we'd finally do a full metric switch instead of this bullshit 80% effort

[alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

It would feel fair, but it's also not that important for either the EU or the Euro itself.

The Euro is really a 1990s invention, when cash was dominant. Now that all payments are digital, it really doesn't matter if countries use the Euro or their own currency.

[skunkworkz@lemmy.world]

*huge deluge of benefits