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What's the best way of dealing with Maga hatred, white power, genocide denial and other things you see a Lemmy user espousing?

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  • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.comO [email protected]

    how is blocking someone helping influence other people? youre the only human the block affects. its no different than ignoring them.

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    I think they mean not letting the ideas go unchallenged. If someone is reading through and sees a bunch of Nazis posting hate all up somewhere with no one else saying anything, they might assume that sort of behavior is just tacitly accepted and influence their perception of the community as a whole.

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      If I ignore/block them, it allows them to continue unchallenged. I hate getting into it with them, since they are a baseline idiot.

      I guess that's it. I saw a person with a 6 month account spouting garbage, was gonna block but thought perhaps that wasn't morally responsible. Wondering what the options were.

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      On the internet, you're not likely to change their mind, like at all. But in person, if you can connect with someone and bring it back to family, and community, you can slowly change someone's mind and show them that they've been lied too. It doesn't happen overnight, but it can be done.

      On the interwebs, don't even bother.

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        If I ignore/block them, it allows them to continue unchallenged. I hate getting into it with them, since they are a baseline idiot.

        I guess that's it. I saw a person with a 6 month account spouting garbage, was gonna block but thought perhaps that wasn't morally responsible. Wondering what the options were.

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        Politely as them to snap a pic of their hog and post it.

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          If I ignore/block them, it allows them to continue unchallenged. I hate getting into it with them, since they are a baseline idiot.

          I guess that's it. I saw a person with a 6 month account spouting garbage, was gonna block but thought perhaps that wasn't morally responsible. Wondering what the options were.

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          Very rarely do people like this actually want to discuss why they are the way they are. They don't care about your opinion, and will actively react negatively to any push back. Of course, you can always block them, but there is another choice sicko-hexbear-crowd

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            If I ignore/block them, it allows them to continue unchallenged. I hate getting into it with them, since they are a baseline idiot.

            I guess that's it. I saw a person with a 6 month account spouting garbage, was gonna block but thought perhaps that wasn't morally responsible. Wondering what the options were.

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            Bang with the ban gun get em outta herestalin-gun-1stalin-gun-2

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              If I ignore/block them, it allows them to continue unchallenged. I hate getting into it with them, since they are a baseline idiot.

              I guess that's it. I saw a person with a 6 month account spouting garbage, was gonna block but thought perhaps that wasn't morally responsible. Wondering what the options were.

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              Report them, block them.

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              • D [email protected]

                Sometimes, it's not about changing their mind, but influencing the many others who are less certain in their beliefs who are just reading along.

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                In that case, it's better to just make a top-level comment that's far more likely to be read than a response 4 replies deep in an insufferable debate. You don't continue the chess game for the sake of spectators once the pigeon has shat all over the board and knocked the pieces on the ground repeatedly. They're just wasting your time at that point, which for most of them is their only goal in the first place.

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                • linkopenschest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zoneL [email protected]

                  In that case, it's better to just make a top-level comment that's far more likely to be read than a response 4 replies deep in an insufferable debate. You don't continue the chess game for the sake of spectators once the pigeon has shat all over the board and knocked the pieces on the ground repeatedly. They're just wasting your time at that point, which for most of them is their only goal in the first place.

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                  Also, people vastly overestimate how many people are actually going to read an argument between two online people. Only the most chronically online of redditors read that shit. Most people find it very off-putting, and you actually risk losing credibility if you continue to engage. (Said as someone who has very much and repeatedly made the error of continuing to engage.)

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                  • M [email protected]

                    If I ignore/block them, it allows them to continue unchallenged. I hate getting into it with them, since they are a baseline idiot.

                    I guess that's it. I saw a person with a 6 month account spouting garbage, was gonna block but thought perhaps that wasn't morally responsible. Wondering what the options were.

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                    Where are you encountering these types of conversations on Lemmy? I haven't hardly noticed any sort of debates or conversations like that here. I just figured most conservatives just avoid this place either because they are keeping to their own echo chambers or aren't smart enough to figure out how Lemmy works

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                      If I ignore/block them, it allows them to continue unchallenged. I hate getting into it with them, since they are a baseline idiot.

                      I guess that's it. I saw a person with a 6 month account spouting garbage, was gonna block but thought perhaps that wasn't morally responsible. Wondering what the options were.

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                      armed-crab

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                      • nothx@hexbear.netN [email protected]

                        Realistically I think your options are to ignore/block, or confront them against your better judgement. Which, as you know will likely constitute going circles for hours before having to bow out because your brain is coming out of your ears. The problem with both these options is that they likely have the same outcome. However, the latter will also leave them resenting you and the rest of the “online leftists” even more than they already do. In fact, it will probably embolden them in their pursuit of radical centrism just to own the “tankies”.

                        That’s just my experience and observations tho…

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                        You know, hexbear is really a fine example of what you get when the auth right tries to do a parody version of leftists.

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                          Where are you encountering these types of conversations on Lemmy? I haven't hardly noticed any sort of debates or conversations like that here. I just figured most conservatives just avoid this place either because they are keeping to their own echo chambers or aren't smart enough to figure out how Lemmy works

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                          Just turned up replying to me one day.

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                            If I ignore/block them, it allows them to continue unchallenged. I hate getting into it with them, since they are a baseline idiot.

                            I guess that's it. I saw a person with a 6 month account spouting garbage, was gonna block but thought perhaps that wasn't morally responsible. Wondering what the options were.

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                            Did you report this person? Racists are usually quickly dispensed with, because if they’re allowed to continue unchallenged then this will become a Nazi bar.

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                            • shimmeringkoi@hexbear.netS [email protected]

                              Bang with the ban gun get em outta herestalin-gun-1stalin-gun-2

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                              Bullying them until the banhammer comes down... I slept so well last night lol

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                              • N [email protected]

                                On the internet, you're not likely to change their mind, like at all. But in person, if you can connect with someone and bring it back to family, and community, you can slowly change someone's mind and show them that they've been lied too. It doesn't happen overnight, but it can be done.

                                On the interwebs, don't even bother.

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                                This topic always reminds me of this hero https://www.npr.org/2017/08/20/544861933/how-one-man-convinced-200-ku-klux-klan-members-to-give-up-their-robes

                                I want to see more people like him in this world. But I sure wouldn't have the guts to follow his steps.

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                                • modernrisk@lemmy.dbzer0.comM [email protected]

                                  When Lemmy first got popular and all debates happened and such, I kept debating politely while they kept bashing, insulting and all that. I’m over that.

                                  When I see such opinions now, I block them. They are seriously not worth my time, energy and effort. Let them wallow in their misery.

                                  They won’t realize it but everything bad they hope happening to others will certainly bite them back sooner or later. The moment they do not fit their (own) ideology of fascism just a tiny bit, it’ll bite them back.

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                                  I'd bet it is already happening to them, as they are almost always full of self hatred, bashing more and more because of it, like one runs faster and faster away from a car (I'm bad at metaphors).

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                                  • M [email protected]

                                    Just turned up replying to me one day.

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                                    Track down their location

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                                      Track down their location

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                                      I do not have "a particular set of skills".

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                                      • M [email protected]

                                        If I ignore/block them, it allows them to continue unchallenged. I hate getting into it with them, since they are a baseline idiot.

                                        I guess that's it. I saw a person with a 6 month account spouting garbage, was gonna block but thought perhaps that wasn't morally responsible. Wondering what the options were.

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                                        You’ve actually found right leaning people on Lemmie? I thought they were either shoved out, bullied out or pushed out or just given up and left and went somewhere else.

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                                          If I ignore/block them, it allows them to continue unchallenged. I hate getting into it with them, since they are a baseline idiot.

                                          I guess that's it. I saw a person with a 6 month account spouting garbage, was gonna block but thought perhaps that wasn't morally responsible. Wondering what the options were.

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                                          Open hostility. Anywhere nazis are welcome, no one else is.

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