Denmark, Netherlands react to Trump's DEI ultimatum
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Or, replace the chain link fence with a dodgy internet stream of the game. It's unjust that some people don't get to see the game, and other people who paid for a ticket do.
(only partially joking)
You see freeloaders. I see people watching a game. Could just be a park? There's no stands or tickets or anything.
Like a rorschach test revealing some cognitive bias. Maybe some introspection is in order.
I'm not perfectly clear on your point, but it read like only people who have money should get to watch at all?
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You see freeloaders. I see people watching a game. Could just be a park? There's no stands or tickets or anything.
Like a rorschach test revealing some cognitive bias. Maybe some introspection is in order.
I'm not perfectly clear on your point, but it read like only people who have money should get to watch at all?
If it's just a park, why aren't the spectators in the park?
I think the original is just meant to be a simple concept without a fully fleshed out world. In the true original version, it's only meant to differentiate between equality and equity. It does that by showing that equality gives everyone the same resources, but equity focuses more on ensuring everybody has the same outcomes.
By changing the wall into a chain-link fence and labelling that as justice, it basically opens the door to asking more questions about this world being depicted. Why is there a wall in the first place? In most cases when you have spectators at a sporting event who have to stand on something to see over a wall, it's because it's a professional sporting event that sells tickets, and doesn't want people who haven't bought tickets to be able to see the event.
If justice is removing the wall and replacing it with a chain-link fence people can see through, what does that mean for the world of professional sports? Are people who didn't buy tickets entitled to view the game regardless of buying tickets to see it? If you take that concept more broadly, should people be able to access any good or service they want without having to pay for it?
I'm mostly just making fun of the over simplified world depicted in the meme.
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Summary
Denmark and the Netherlands criticized Trump’s demand that foreign companies with U.S. government contracts eliminate diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI).
Denmark called for a coordinated EU response, labeling the move a potential trade barrier.
The Trump administration sent letters to European firms—including in France and Belgium—warning they must comply with a DEI ban or risk losing U.S. contracts.
European officials condemned the letters, defending DEI as essential to corporate responsibility. The EU Commission is reviewing the situation, while the U.S. State Department called the effort a compliance measure.
Use Export Tariff on ASML products and services.
They need ASML for the new factories, so they'll have to buy it anyway.
That should make up for the loss of revenue on the other products and services Netherlands lose to the Tariffs and US DEI demands -
I can only imagine that EU is just quietly finding ways to not be dependent on the US right now.
What Trump is doing/does is unacceptable. But US citizens have been groomed to accept everything from their perceived leader.
EU has not been groomed to accept these things. They know to just ignore while they can and get ready for a trade war, cold war, or any sort of war.
Speak for yourself, but there are a whole lot of us here that don't want anything he's selling. Not all of us have been "groomed to accept everything from their perceived leader." Also a lot of us that are genuinely embarrassed about his actions and their impacts on the rest of the world and want it to stop nowish.
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It's also useful to ask "if you don't support DEI, is it diversity, equity or inclusion you have an issue with?"
Should certain people or certain kinds of people be excluded? Is that why inclusion is bad?
What's bad about equity? Should things be inequitable? Should certain people get preferential treatment? If so, which people and why?
Or, is it diversity that's the problem? Is uniformness important? Is it so important that it's reasonable to exclude people who don't come from the right backgrounds or don't look a certain way?
Is it bad to be a minority?
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I love that this article expands DEI into diversity, equity, and inclusion. It's important to remember that diversity, equity, and inclusion are not primarily political devices, but a set of moral ideas meant to improve human wellbeing and harmony. DEI is used as a political device by people who are not driven by a desire for human wellbeing.
In the case of the EU however as well as a bunch of European countries, DEI is literally part of the constitution. But hey, Dump and his team would need to inform themselves on other countries to know that
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Use Export Tariff on ASML products and services.
They need ASML for the new factories, so they'll have to buy it anyway.
That should make up for the loss of revenue on the other products and services Netherlands lose to the Tariffs and US DEI demandsHopefully they have kill switches built into their machines and can turn them off if needed?.
ASML is literally the piviot on which the entire tech world balances.
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Speak for yourself, but there are a whole lot of us here that don't want anything he's selling. Not all of us have been "groomed to accept everything from their perceived leader." Also a lot of us that are genuinely embarrassed about his actions and their impacts on the rest of the world and want it to stop nowish.
About 2/3 of the voting population didn't think he was enough of a threat to vote against him
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It's not even the worst ideologically driven madness Pushed on foreign nations. The George W. Bush administration used aid programs to coerce African nations to focus on faith based birth control initiatives (such as abstinence) during the HIV epidemic leading to absolutely massive numbers of infected across the continent.
I mean, I don't know if I can necessarily rank one of those as being worse that the other. Telling Europe that it needs to deny its own racist legacy of colonialism in order to continue dealing with the U.S. is pretty damn bad. Maybe HIV is a more modern problem, but colonialism killed a lot more Africans.
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I can only imagine that EU is just quietly finding ways to not be dependent on the US right now.
What Trump is doing/does is unacceptable. But US citizens have been groomed to accept everything from their perceived leader.
EU has not been groomed to accept these things. They know to just ignore while they can and get ready for a trade war, cold war, or any sort of war.
The US has been like this since forever, it's just that this time it really went off a cliff.
The US never had been a real democracy, not like countries that don't well, and until it is at the same level, it should just be ignored by the rest of the world
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I mean, I don't know if I can necessarily rank one of those as being worse that the other. Telling Europe that it needs to deny its own racist legacy of colonialism in order to continue dealing with the U.S. is pretty damn bad. Maybe HIV is a more modern problem, but colonialism killed a lot more Africans.
Hear me out... colonialism made HIV possible.
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Hopefully they have kill switches built into their machines and can turn them off if needed?.
ASML is literally the piviot on which the entire tech world balances.
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About 2/3 of the voting population didn't think he was enough of a threat to vote against him
That figure it highly suspect at best. MAGA took actual vote stealing moves this election... Multiple ballot boxes in the area I live (a liberal leaning urban city center) had their contents burnt to dust right after votes had come in, and that's just one of many examples. Not to mention gerrymandering. Don't listen to the propaganda, the man who cried wolf about a stolen election committed the crime he pretended to be the victim of
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Summary
Denmark and the Netherlands criticized Trump’s demand that foreign companies with U.S. government contracts eliminate diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI).
Denmark called for a coordinated EU response, labeling the move a potential trade barrier.
The Trump administration sent letters to European firms—including in France and Belgium—warning they must comply with a DEI ban or risk losing U.S. contracts.
European officials condemned the letters, defending DEI as essential to corporate responsibility. The EU Commission is reviewing the situation, while the U.S. State Department called the effort a compliance measure.
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It's also useful to ask "if you don't support DEI, is it diversity, equity or inclusion you have an issue with?"
Should certain people or certain kinds of people be excluded? Is that why inclusion is bad?
What's bad about equity? Should things be inequitable? Should certain people get preferential treatment? If so, which people and why?
Or, is it diversity that's the problem? Is uniformness important? Is it so important that it's reasonable to exclude people who don't come from the right backgrounds or don't look a certain way?
They're starting to adapt. They often claim,
- that DEI is an Orwellian term and is not really meaning what it means,
- that since discrimination is already illegal, such programs are not needed, we just need to "push harder on meritocracy" (which is funny once you realize where the term "meritocracy" comes from),
- or that these programs have "gone too far", because they watched too much Brian Lunduke or some other people like him, who "overreport" the (supposed) overreaches of DEI programs.
"Overreporting" means that you purposefully overinflate supposed problems by bringing up the same story over and over again, which makes the problems seem way bigger than what they actually are, and at worst the people reading or watching half attended might actually think the problem occured another time. I'm from Hungary, and not only this method made people believe that "Roma crimes" and "disability benefit cheats" were way more widespread than they actually were, ultimately handing over the first landside victory to Fidesz (ironically, many of the sites doing these kinds of tactics claimed Viktor Orbán was both too far-left and Roma - Hungary has its own birther movement that makes critique of Fidesz extremely hard), and making the life harder for those groups much harder once Fidesz enacted its programs. Also thanks to overreporting, some of my relatives thought the knife attacker of Blaha Lujza square made yearly attacks for MP3 players up until MP3 players fell out of fashion in favor of smartphones, with some still warning me against bringing an MP3 player to Budapest, because the far-right "news" site kuruc info likes to post the anniversaries of said tragedies caused by Roma criminals, which was even worse in the very first years after the attack (TL;DR: They brought it up on a yearly basis).
