FYI - Graphene OS had biometrics with pin
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It is not about police hijacking IMEI, my bank only provides 2FA with phone number, and the password can be reset using the OTP they send to my phone. I know the bank is terrible but where I live all banks do same thing. So if my phone ever gets stolen they can just remove the sim and put it in another phone and get access to the Bank account. Also did I mention you can also get username from OTP to your phone so, yeah I should probably not use any bank and go live in mountains. But SIM lock helps.
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Yooo ive been wanting this for years. They should totally bring back pattern unlock for this.
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Oops forgot it
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So I'm still on stock android on a pixel and there is no option for just pin? Maybe I have to remove fingerprint from the phone first but there is basically a serious backdoor built in. How many people will be able to turn there phone off under duress?
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If you're concerned about these kind of things, you might want to know about the GrapheneOS duress password. You record a second PIN. If you're ever forced to type a PIN, you can type this one instead. It will lock/wipe out the phone within a few seconds. There's a few youtube videos showcasing this self-destruct mode.
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There is also an aftermarket solution, if you are not on gos, three name is duress on droid.
If you still want the comfort to open your phone via biometrics plus disable biometrics in emergencies there is private lock (fdroid).
It will engage when the phone is shaken, e.g. a thief grabs it from your hand while you are typing, or you shake so nobody can force you to open it by fingerprint. The device will be locked and biometrics disabled until you unlock it again.
There is also a recently updated app on fdroid with the same features, but it was not as reliable for me so I went back to using private lock. -
All profiles need to be backed up seperately for those who don't know so have a flash drive for each profile if it's important or whatever medium you choose to backup to.
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It is not about police hijacking IMEI
That's the entire point of the OPs post that I replied to. So.... Yes it is.
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Is that what it does? I thought it deleted any profile other than the primary one.
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My compromise was 7a for $300 this summer. Still a very painful price for me, but imo worth it.
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GrapheneOS provides users with the ability to set a duress PIN/Password that will irreversibly wipe the device (along with any installed eSIMs) once entered anywhere where the device credentials are requested (on the lockscreen, along with any such prompt in the OS).
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I am wondering why GrapheneOS don't implement biometric BUT only with 2FA , for example: use finger and then a Android ask for specific password/pin to unlock device, this would let people use biometric with pass and don't worry about forcing by law enforcment or other
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Been using it for a while and it's great.
Next up: auto wipe device after x days of no authentication.
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At that point use the duress password with the police
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Using the duress password could potentially be charged as destruction of evidence. If you can refuse to enter a password long enough for it to auto wipe before a judge orders you to unlock it you could avoid the danger of legal consequences. No destruction of evidence and no contempt of court.
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By if you have ESIM, the wipe deletes the Sim as well...
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That's exactly what the Second Factor PIN is. You have to use both a fingerprint plus a pin to unlock the phone. That feature only recently came out, in the past month or two.
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Thanks for clarifying, I hate the fact even deepseek does not reply with facts like this.
Anyway when do they start breaking your kneecaps for refusing?
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Can confirm, this exists and it works even if the phone is turned off or runs out of battery midway through the wipe, I've tested it. I have no use for it personally, but it's pretty neat!
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Apologies If I can't list specific 3rd Android OS here. I know you can't on some reddit privacy subs due to some beef between devs I guess. I'll take down if needed
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