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Do you comsume any tobacco products (e.g. "smoking") or alcoholic beverages? Why or why not?

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    Every tobacco smoker is gross.

    Maybe that's a product of the old "every swan is white" kind of fallacy (don't know the name of it offhand), but I've never met a habitual smoker that didn't cause physical pain to be around. They stink, their clothes stink, their car stinks, their room stinks, and maybe their whole house.

    "Stinks" may be just an opinion, but it seems to be almost universally agreed on (again, in my experience).

    I've always looked down on them and judged them for consciously coding to smell like that, especially because all they get from it is keeping the symptoms of withdrawal away. They don't get "high", they don't even get "relaxed" (except in the manner of relief from withdrawal symptoms). Literally all they get is smelling like poison and a priority pass to the lung cancer ride.

    Not to mention possibly causing mild symptoms to everyone else nearby.

    Also everyone doing it now wasn't born back when they thought it was beneficial or even neutral. It's always been the most reliable route to cancer in everyone alive today's life.

    So I think all smokers are stupid and stinky at the very best, and intentionally malicious at worst.

    Given that there is absolutely no benefit at all, and given the definite danger of it to you and others, I deem smokers are just bad people in general.

    On the more stupid end of the spectrum, they're more stupid than bad, but even the very "best" tobacco for is stupid AF.

    So to answer, no I don't consume tobacco, and that is why.


    Alcohol I believe is at least not as addictive, but is a bad choice for most of the same reasons. Typically they have to go more out of control to present an offensive odor, and if kept away from driving or sharp things, much less danger to others.

    Their motivations seem more apparent since they do get high from it (drunk is basically just the word for a high specifically from alcohol). I also think that (not pushing this as I don't know definitively) alcohol does less cumulative damage over time when used responsibly.

    I drank occasionally (aka like 2x a week at the extreme high end) for a few years, and while I didn't ever get a hangover exactly, I did black out once and started getting headaches regularly, so it quickly became more of a negative than a positive. Haven't touched it for over 9 years, except for one sip of champagne for a toast at my brother's wedding. And it was kinda gross in my opinion. Never did like the taste of alcohol, but being drunk was fun as a while as a kid, and enjoying doing something my parents wouldn't like (coming out of a pretty conservative household) was part of it.

    But almost no one just smokes occasionally. Plenty of drinkers drink occasionally. And if they're not driving, they're likely being annoying at worst. I don't judge them nearly as harshly as tobacco smokers.

    I'm fine with weed enjoyers. Whether you smoke it, vape it, or eat it, I'm interested in all of it. But it does still have an odor problem. Tobacco smells bad kinda universally (in my opinion), and that tar in it makes it super gross. I've never seen weed smoke "set in" to anything and make any permanent kinda smell. Maybe because I keep it cleaned up, maybe just because it's not as oppressive in the first place.

    Obviously I'm biased in how "bad" the smells are in relation to each other, but weed smell does seem to dissipate more. In my case I dry vape it, mostly through a window so it goes outside. None of my shit smells like weed. The room smells a bit when I'm emptying abv and loading new, but as soon as it's put away it's like it was never there.

    So anyway, no. I don't do either. And if you smoke tobacco (at least often or regularly), we are probably not friends. And you would definitely not be my SO. Smoking goes on the "ick" list for sure. Probably the textbook example of an ick.

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    I know smokers who don't stink. They also don't smoke indoors or in their cars which I think is the key. I can still smell it on them a little if I'm very close but it's not as bad as what you're describing (which I have also experienced from many smokers).

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      Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

      I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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      I don't drink alcohol, as i have medical issues with alcohol breakdown products.

      I don't smoke, as i have seen relatives dying of lung cancer.

      I don't do other recreational drugs, as during the age where people get hooked to that shit I could barely afford food and had no money to waste, and now I'm to old to start such a stupid shit.

      I only take the drugs prescribed by my doc, and that is more than enough.

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        Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

        I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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        No tobacco and no alcohol here. I used to binge drink in college but after a night of drinking ended up with a $6000 ER/ambulance bill (yes I am American how did you know?), I decided it was time to stop altogether because I can't control my intake when I drink.

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        • D [email protected]

          Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

          I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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          Beer, Wine, Mead, Spirits a couple times a week on average. I am super interesting in alcohol and its production as it pertains to our culture, biology, technology, and frankly our existence today. Fermentation, in general, is truly a cornerstone of us as a species.

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          • D [email protected]

            Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

            I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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            I firmly believe in moderation.

            I roll my own cigarettes, I might go through two a day if I'm overusing. Vaping changed my relationship with Nicotine such that I have a much as I want, when I want it. Rolling my own allows me to bypass the markings on a cigarette that tell you "you're done smoking this one" giving me power over it, a chance to decide I've had enough without the smoke making that decision for me.

            I also occasionally consume alcohol. My partner is a recovering alcoholic who also believes in my philosophy of moderation over abstainance, simply for the power over substance aspect. We occasionally pick up a four pack of session brews, every few weeks or so. Beer is tasty, but we never want to have more on us than we'll have in an evening, and we try not to make a habit of consuming.

            Why? I enjoy my vices. I don't feel as though the way I partake in them has negatively affected my life, so I plan to continue partaking in them as I choose to.

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              Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

              I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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              Quit smoking 25 years ago. Still drink.

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              • D [email protected]

                Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                Nah. Grew up in a non-smoking family. Never got the taste for alcohol even though I've tried it a few times. I'm a sugar fiend though

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                • D [email protected]

                  Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                  I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                  Smoking no, alcohol occasionally. Parents are very lax about it so they buy it for me. It's pretty cool.

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                    Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                    I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                    I don't smoke tobacco, tried it once when I was younger, not my thing, didn't liked the feeling on my lungs at all, and I've seen how difficult it is to deal with the addiction from both my parents, so I never wanted to start. Weed smoke is a bit less coarse on my lungs, but still I strongly dislike the feeling (dry herb vaporizer is much better in that regard).

                    Alcohol I don't usually have. I might drink a beer or a whiskey in social situations, but haven't been drunk in the past 20 years.

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                    • D [email protected]

                      Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                      I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                      I'm a "Xennial" (born on the cusp in X and Millennial). I quit smoking cigarettes 14 years ago and haven't touched one since. I used to drink like a fish, but have cut way back just in the past 2 years or so. With all the articles coming out about how even more than 1 drink a day is bad for you, I suppose I should quit that as well, but alcohol makes fun times even more fun for me, and that's not something I'm ready to give up forever just yet. I'm healthy, go to the gym 3 times a week, excellent bloodwork, etc, so I don't feel the need to give it up 100%.

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                        Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                        I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                        I smoked for a couple years but gave it up when a new GF complained. I know I'm lucky af for this.... but I quit just over a single weekend. Physically it wasn't a big deal for me. I only miss the social aspect of meeting new random strangers. This was about a decade ago and don't have any cravings at all.

                        Booze? I used to binge drink in my 20s, not healthy mentally or physically, but once I hit 30 it felt like my tolerance dissapered and hangovers lasted days. Only on the rarest occasions do I have a single cocktail at a restaurant. Like maybe every 6 months or so.

                        Do a fair amount of CBD and CBN for pain relief, and around bedtime THC, but all that is edibles.

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                          Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                          I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                          I drink, but do not smoke (tobacco). I enjoy drinking, I enjoy socializing while drinking. I enjoy drinks with meals.

                          I know it's not good for me, so I do so with some level of moderation - as I've grown older, the moderation has increased.

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                            Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                            I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                            I drink occasionally. Three times so far this year, been drunk once.

                            I smoked tobacco for 10 years and quit for 2 years. Then started again, switched to vaping a few months later and vaped on/ off for 9 years (currently on). I did occasionally smoke cigars (when drinking) but I can't stomach them anymore.

                            Hallucinogenics are my preferred drugs but I live in a country where all of them, even weed, are illegal and I get tested at work. If they were legal and I had a reliable source of clean product I'd smoke weed maybe 10 - 15 days out of the year and do acid once in the summer and shrooms once around the autumn/ winter.

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                              Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                              I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                              I used to drink more during my college years. That and right after was the hardest part of my life, aside from now, but I don't drink as much now.

                              Joints though, nothing beats the convenience of a nice joint. Good edibles are hard to find, drinks are nice but pricy and rarely less than 10MG, and my herbal vape (not a typical vape) is nice but feels weak. I need to break off of them. I also enjoy rolling them, it's therapeutic.

                              I'm allergic to cigarette smoke and hate tobacco, thankfully

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                                I know smokers who don't stink. They also don't smoke indoors or in their cars which I think is the key. I can still smell it on them a little if I'm very close but it's not as bad as what you're describing (which I have also experienced from many smokers).

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                                You found the black swans.

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                                  Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                                  I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                                  Drink occasionally, I vape cannabis flower often. I don't use all that much though, less than 0.35 grams a week usually.

                                  I used to go fucking ham on the weed, but I quit at the beginning of this year, and had the most incredibly horrible withdrawals I could imagine. Literally didn't know you could get withdrawals from THC so bad. I had to take a week off of work. I was dizzy to the point of vomiting if I moved my head at all for two weeks, miserable fucking experience. Anywho now I try to indulge responsibly and take breaks often.

                                  Never smoked tobacco, I would hit my friends nic vapes in high school mostly just try try their flavors, they made their own juice and were big dealers In the school selling it haha.

                                  Why do I get high? Well I suppose I really enjoy the feeling of being in an altered state. It feels different, it feels good. It also helps me a decent bit with OCD symptoms most of the time, although I've read online it makes symptoms worse for some people.

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                                    Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                                    I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                                    No smoking. Pretty much only schnapps after meals with my grandma - doing it for her.

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                                      Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                                      I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                                      I only drink a soft drink (beer or wine) a couple of times a year. I do not smoke or take any other drugs.

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                                        Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                                        I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                                        I don't think this is unusual for your generation. GenZ seems risk adverse. It is surprising that you all drive before age 18. Many won't actually call somebody or someplace using your voice.

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                                          Well, neither of them extend your average lifespan. You might get hit by lightning before that becomes particularly relevant. But even then, you have a higher chance of surviving, if your body is healthy.

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