Trump's Gaza comments hand jihadist terrorists a 'rallying cry,' experts say

[noneofurbusiness@fedia.io]

Yes, but Al Qaeda's main immediate focus is on expelling the West (mostly the US) from the Islamic world. In a way they're revolutionaries while ISIS is an army.

[mothmandelorian@lemmy.world]

No? Their goal is the caliphate which is why they were actively fighting Islamic nation’s militaries. The USA out if KSA is part of that goal because the US military would stop them much more teadily than the Saudi army would.

[breadstickninja@lemmy.world]

Also notable that basically the whole world condemned this plan. So I'd say it's a pretty damn broad audience who will rally against this.

[not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

They never really wanted gaza, it's a small piece of land with little historical ties to the bible/Torah. In fact it has more ties to the philistines (non jewish inhabitants of the area), yes that's where the word Palestine comes from, who were there historical enemy.

There long term goal pre October 7th was to try and move all the Palestinians in the rest of Israel into Gaza. You could see this with there funnel immigration policy, if you left Israel for east Jerusalem you couldn't come back to israel, if you left east Jerusalem for the west bank you couldn't come back to Jerusalem, if you left the west bank for Gaza you couldn't come back to the west bank.

The problem with this plan, besides the ethics of doing a slow ethnic cleansing, was that if you concentrate that many people in an open air prison it tends to radicalize them against the wardens. So they had to deal with constant missile fire, they thought Iron dome would solve this but Oct 7th removed that image of safety.

So now they need a new plan. They can't force them out as no country will take them. They can't occupy it long term because it just becomes a pit to throw Israeli soldiers in, that's why they left in 2005. So trump volunteering to take it off there hands is the perfect solution, the u.s. can pay the money and lives in a quagmire while the Israelis can "live in peace"

[eatthecake@lemmy.world]

Thank you for explaining it to me.

[hk65@sopuli.xyz]

Does Israel?

[werefreeatlast@lemmy.world]

He could technically deport fellow Mexicans to Gaza. Is that when we say stop?

[zaktor@sopuli.xyz]

They had to make sure to have quality kneepads... You know why.

Oh, I do know why! You really made fun of them good by implying they do gay stuff.

[blindfrog@lemmy.world]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/cia-sent-unclassified-email-names-recent-hires-rcna190872

"After President Donald Trump’s executive order on shrinking the federal workforce, the Office of Personnel Management sent a memo on Jan. 20 to all federal agencies asking for a list of recently hired employees who remained on probation by Jan. 24.

The OPM, however, does not have a classified communications network. So the CIA sent it an unclassified email with the first names and the initials of the last names of the new employees, the official said."

[baroqueinmind@lemmy.one]

Bro, they flew in with gliders, shot and killed hundreds of kids at a concert...

Please enlighten me what kinds of heroic "freedom fighters" take hostages for ransom money?

This is not a rhetorical question, I'm genuinely asking you because I'm dumb.

[prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

The fact that you think the joke was about being gay, says a whole lot about you.

I could not care less about dudes sucking dick. I was referring to the subservience that comes with it.

[phoenixz@lemmy.ca]

Yeah so we know that cheeto isn't capable of thinking ahead for more than 30 seconds, but seriously, he couldn't see this coming?

He basically gave a nice big gift with a cherry in too to all terrorism networks in the world. Maybe Trump should become marketing manager for AlQaeda? I mean, I think few could have done a better job.

Having said that: expect terrorism to rise over the next few years like there is no tomorrow, literally.

[rxbudian@lemmy.ca]

Eventually America will get bored and vacate the land, so the logical choice for an ally to take over is Israel

[phoenixz@lemmy.ca]

You're trying to tell me there is no such thing as jihadist terrorists?because if you don't I can send you a long LONG list of terror attacks by jihadist terrorists that killed countless innocent men, women, and children.

Now before you take this away and claim i support genocide, because that's the world we live in now, I don't. Obviously.

Once freedom fighter is a other ones terrorist

Having said that, jihadist terrorists have caused untold suffering as well. This might sound strange, but both sides can be bad and things like collateral damage don't justify the suffering these groups have caused.

The Israeli government (not it's people, just it's vile leaders) should be put against the wall and shot for all the (child) murders and genocide. The same, however, goes for the jihadist terrorist groups, they too should be eradicated for the countless innocent people (and children) they've murdered

[saleh@feddit.org]

Also if getting rid of foreign invaders troops in your area is followed by them coming back 15 years later in a different place nearby, you might get tired of the whack a mole and start thinking of looking at the place they keep coming from.

[saleh@feddit.org]

As long as these are their bitch, which the US political elites mostly are, they would be fine with it. Also ideally the Americans would then do the fighting and murdering for them, so they can just collect the scraps in the end.

There is a lot of delusions of grandeur in Israel though. By not getting any serious pushback from the US and the lobby capture of US politics many Israelis have become completely detached from the reality of their position. Among younger Jews outside Israel the majority has become critical of it and want little to do with it. Meanwhile Palestinians have a higher birthrate and pre genocide there was about as many Palestinians in the area as there was western Zionists.

So the apartheid system is becoming less and less stable as the demographics tip over. This became evident with Oct. 7 and Israel needs every help they can get to ethnically cleanse or fully genocide as many Palestinians as they can get away with. In the same sense they cannot be too picky about their settlers as long as they think they can control them.

Among others, Israel is harboring child rapists that fled from justice in the US. And this is not crazy propaganda to make them look evil. It is reported on by mainstream media outlets, including Israeli ones.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-jewish-american-pedophiles-hide-from-justice-in-israel/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/many-accused-jewish-pedophiles-in-us-flee-to-israel-report/
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2022-07-25/ty-article/.premium/tip-of-the-iceberg-how-foreign-sex-offenders-find-refuge-in-israel/00000182-3532-d7e9-af96-3d73c52c0000

[urfavlaura@lemmy.ml]

Trump is making himself another 9/11

[azal@pawb.social]

I mean... that's probably (about as close as he has one) the plan...