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Amazon’s killing a feature that let you download and backup Kindle books

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  • G [email protected]

    Well there's a key difference, Kobo allows epub. I don't think they could legally remove it from devices already on the market?

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    And Kindle supports mobi files? It is just that those tend to get preprocessed into azw or the other one files. Much like Kobo tends to work best if you preprocess those epubs into kepubs.

    The issue is that Amazon has repeatedly changed their mobi variants to fight against de-drm tools as well as increasingly locking down their apps and even devices to make it harder to get data off (and now on) to them.

    There is absolutely nothing stopping Rakuten from doing the exact same with Kobo. And people should be aware of that rather than just stanning their favorite company.

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      Ugh, thanks for the warning. Time for me to download and de-drm all my old kindle books and never again buy anymore.

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      Try this python script: https://github.com/Jedi425/BulkKindleUSBDownloader

      Source: https://social.wildeboer.net/@jwildeboer/114002221924654676

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        Try this python script: https://github.com/Jedi425/BulkKindleUSBDownloader

        Source: https://social.wildeboer.net/@jwildeboer/114002221924654676

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        Awesome, thank you!

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          early models didn't have wifi, only usb or cellular from one provider or another--and those models' 3g connectivity was killed off years ago.

          this will obsolete all the non-wifi kindles still in use.

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          You can still use calibre to sideload onto them. Where you get the books is another issue.

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            I’m waiting for them to get rid of the send-to-kindle email thing to receive books from calibre. I’m surprised it has survived for this long. I’ve wanted to try out a kobo but can’t justify it cause my 10+ year old kindle still works perfectly fine for reading. But once they remove that feature or drop support for my device, it’s kobo time.

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            Check out boox for a properly open(-ish) platform, it's android based.

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              Knew this would happen

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                I’m guessing audible will follow soon after.

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                  You can still use calibre to sideload onto them. Where you get the books is another issue.

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                  So it just obsoletes them for the model users that buy from Amazon and put it on their Amazon device without conversion in between. Even though they should be Amazons favourites.

                  lol, lmao even.

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                    So it just obsoletes them for the model users that buy from Amazon and put it on their Amazon device without conversion in between. Even though they should be Amazons favourites.

                    lol, lmao even.

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                    The specific devices impacted by this are pretty old (I think only the first and second gen ones? So at latest 2009), so honestly I doubt they're very worried about it.

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                    • T [email protected]

                      The optimist in me says they're doing this to avoid piracy.

                      The pessimist in me says they're doing this so they can purge books because of the Trump administration.

                      Either way, I can't say I'm a fan.

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                      • G [email protected]

                        Well there's a key difference, Kobo allows epub. I don't think they could legally remove it from devices already on the market?

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                        Kobo allows epub

                        Kindle doesn't? Mines 2 years old but my co worker got one for Xmas and theirs loads the epub I sent them no problem at all

                        Honestly the Kobo is better as a physical device imo but the Kindle is perfectly simple to commit crimes on if you have Calibre

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                          While I don't disagree, I still think using a Kindle device is stupid.

                          No reason that they can't just go 'oh we didn't sell those books, we should clean up all that unauthorized content' at some point in the future.

                          Buy something that's not made by Amazon, even if it costs a bit more or has worse features, because well, they're not to be trusted.

                          (Or custom non-connected firmware if that's a thing for Kindles. Never really looked so no idea if that's a thing.)

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                          No reason that they can't just go 'oh we didn't sell those books, we should clean up all that unauthorized content' at some point in the future.

                          On our personal devices? That's illegal where I am and I doubt they even have the capability to do that currently, anyway

                          Or custom non-connected firmware

                          Just don't connect to the Internet and use Calibre to manage your library, there's no need for custom firmware

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                            I sure am glad I got a Kobo for myself for Xmas and ripped all my books to it. Guess I'll be recycling my Kindle for good.

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                              I'm quite glad that I never bought fully into Kindle/Nook/Kobo and instead went with an eInk Android tablet.

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                                I told people years ago. You don't own those books.

                                I own my books.... They are made out of this thing called paper and line the wall of my office. All the volumes I value I have of copy of for myself and future generations of my family

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                                  I'm quite glad that I never bought fully into Kindle/Nook/Kobo and instead went with an eInk Android tablet.

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                                  Which model did you end up with? Do you like it?

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                                    It's been a while since I tried it but from memory I had managed to extract the device keys from my kindle for DeDRM and then it wouldn't decrypt the files with them

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                                    The guide the other user commented looks pretty good, better than the one i followed. lol
                                    If you run into issues let us know.

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                                      I sure am glad I got a Kobo for myself for Xmas and ripped all my books to it. Guess I'll be recycling my Kindle for good.

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                                      If your model accepts a custom OS, some of them make decent e-ink displays for weather, family photos, etc.

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                                        Which model did you end up with? Do you like it?

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                                        I went with a Box Note Air 3C, and it's great. I hear the new model is basically the same but faster.

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                                          If your model accepts a custom OS, some of them make decent e-ink displays for weather, family photos, etc.

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                                          Yeah I've actually thought about doing that and making it an office desk calendar or something. Thanks for reminding me!

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