I'm so happy this happened.

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I'm so happy this happened. This is really a power move from China. The US was really riding the whole AI bubble. By "just" releasing a powerful open-source AI model they've fucked the not so open US AI companies. I'm not sure if this was planned from China or whether this is was really just a small company doing this because they wanted to, but either way this really damages the western economy. And its given western consumers a free alternative. A few million dollars invested (if we are to believe the cost figures) for a major disruption.

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Socialism/Communism will always outcompete the capitalists. And they know it, which is why the US invades, topples, or sanctions every country that moves towards worker controlled countries.

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We need to open source the whole government. Decentralized communism.

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Absolutely. More direct democracy. The whole point of representative democracy is issues of time and distance. Now that we can communicate fast and across the globe, average citizens should play a much larger & more active role in directing the government.

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How do you solve the problem that half the country can't even be bothered to participate once every four years?

Don't get me wrong, I'm with you 100%, but how would we get people to engage with such a system?

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Yeah that's why the Soviet union outcompeted capitalism in the 1980s lmao

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That you had to qualify it with a date after it had been corrupted by the west, implies that you’re well aware of how well communism served for half a century before that.

They went from a nation of dirt poor peasants, to a nuclear superpower driving the space race in just a couple of decades. All thanks to communism. And also why China is leaving us in the dust.

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I think you’re victim blaming. I can’t blame half the country for not wanting to participate in a symbolic gesture that will have no impact on the end result in this corrupted system.

https://pnhp.org/news/gilens-and-page-average-citizens-have-little-impact-on-public-policy/

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Yeah just had to genocide a few million Ukrainians to get there!

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There are many instances of communism failing lmao

There are also many current communist states that are not exactly free

Also, you need to ask the Uyghurs how they're feeling about their experience under the communist government you're speaking so highly of at the moment.

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Any corrupt leaders are capable of committing genocide. The difference is capitalism requires genocide to continue functioning.

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How many of those instances failed due to external factors, such as illegal sanctions or a western coup or western military aggression?

Which communist states would you say have less freedom than your country? Let’s compare.

The Uyghur genocide was debunked. Even the US state department was forced to admit they didn’t have the evidence to support their claims. In reality, western intelligence agencies were trying to radicalize the Uyghurs to destabilize the region, but China has been rehabilitating them. The intel community doesn’t like their terrorist fronts to be shut down.

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LMAO found the pro-Xi propagandist account

Either you're brainwashed, are only reading one-sided articles, or you're an adolescent with little world experience given how confidently you speak in absolutes, which doesn't reflect how nuanced the global stage is.

I'm not saying capitalism is the best, but communism won't ALWAYS beat out capitalism (as it hasn't regardless of external factors b/c if those regimes were strong enough they would be able to handle or recover from external pressures) nor does it REQUIRE negatively affecting others as your other comment says. You're just delulu.

Remember, while there maybe instances where all versions of a certain class of anything are equal, in most cases they are not. So blanketly categorizing as your have done just reflects your lack of historical perspective.

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No it doesn't. It requires imperialism. The genocides are simply efficient for the imperial machine creating settlements, but it's not a requirement. They're evidently avoidable and capitalists just repeatedly decide not to avoid it because they consider it cheaper to commit genocide rather than integrate more passively.

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Its smells like wumao in here.

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You don't even realise how strong capitalism is in China.

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How do you solve the problem that half the country can’t even be bothered to participate once every four years?

I assume you're talking about the US electoral system?? That's very different.

but how would we get people to engage with such a system?

By empowering them.

Consider how the current electoral system disempowers people:

Some people literally cannot vote or risk jeopardizing their job taking the day off, others face voter suppression tactics
The FPTP system (esp. spoiler effect) and the present political circumstances mean that there are really only two viable options for political parties for most people, so many feel that neither option represents them, let alone their individual positions on policy
Politics is widely considered to be corrupt and break electoral promises regularly. There is little faith in either party to represent voters

But, in a system where you are able to represent yourself at will, engagement is actually rewarding and meaningful. It won't magically make everyone care, but direct democracy alongside voter rights reform would likely make more people think it's worth polling.

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It sounds like you don’t know what “capitalism” means. Market participation exists in other economy types, too. It’s how the means of production are controlled and the profits distributed that defines capitalism vs communism.

And you don’t lift 800 million people out of poverty under capitalism. Or they’ve done a ridiculously bad job of concentrating profits into the hands of a very small few.

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Imperialism requires genocide. Where do you think the people from that land go to?

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You should really drop the overconfidence, and re-evaluate your biases and perspectives. Regurgitating western propaganda almost verbatim is not a good sign that you’re on the right path.

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I'm so happy this happened.