China is quietly pushing ahead with massive 50,000Mbps broadband rollout to leapfrog rest of the world on internet speeds

[misterd@lemmy.ca]

But someone at AT&T would have to sell their yatch

[boonhet@lemm.ee]

Meanwhile, Telia in Estonia: "The Estonian customer doesn't prioritize connection speed or price, that's why we don't need to offer competitive speed/price ratios compared to what we have in other European countries"

[glitterbomb@lemmy.world]

That yacht is fine because someone else at AT&T rotated into a position at the FCC

[fpsxpert@discuss.online]

American companies being welfare queens, imagine that.

[m137@lemmy.world]

"Chona"

Hahah.

[kalleboo@lemmy.world]

I have symmetrical 10 Gbps at home ($30/mo) and I'll agree. When it's nice when you have big updates, for most households 1 Gbps is going to be just fine. As you say, the vast majority of users are bottlenecked by Wi-Fi.

The bigger crime are all the asymmetrical connections that people on technologies like Cable TV networks have, where you get 1-2 Gbps down but only something tiny like 50 Mbps up. This results in crappy video calls, makes off-site/remote backups unfeasible, etc etc.

[kalleboo@lemmy.world]

(or even Ethernet)

Technically, those 100+ Gbps fiber LAN/WAN connections used in data centers are also Ethernet, just not twisted pair.

That said recently I was in a retail store and saw "Cat8" cables for sale that advertised support for 40 Gbps copper ethernet! I wonder if any hardware to support that will ever be released. It is a real standard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_Gigabit_Ethernet#40GBASE-T

[0x0@infosec.pub]

I sure do. Usually even 10% more. Everyone I know tend to get the same results.. Only place i dont hit advertised speed is on mobile, but thats usually plenty enough even in the woods.

In my country, if you dont hit your plan besides when on mobile, something is wrong.

[professorozone@lemmy.world]

But it's not like the Chinese government to provide that kind of service out of kindness.

[ftbd@feddit.org]

Do you actually have 10G switches and network cards, or is everything behind your router on 1G?

[lemmyingly@lemm.ee]

I have a 40Mbps down, 5Mbps up connection for $30. Consider yourself as real lucky.

[imouto@lemmy.world]

you get 1-2 Gbps down but only something tiny like 50 Mbps up

That's exactly what you get in Australia, even if you have FTTP, 95% of ISPs only offer up to 1000/50Mbps, and that's if you live in the big cities. Mine costs ~US$70/mo btw. And they have a 'typical evening speed' that drops to 860/42Mbps (I've never heard of such a concept outside Australia. Yeah, totally not a scam).

A handful ISPs offer 1000/400Mbps and you'll be looking at ~US$125/mo. Anything faster you'll be handed with astronomical commercial bills.

[clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world]

Why do I care? Why it need to be so fast?

[kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de]

I'm sure I have the same ISP as you, but so far I didn't splurge to buy 10G or 25G gear.

If you don't mind telling, what router and switches did you go for?

Or did you go the Michael Stapelberg route?

[frezik@midwest.social]

360 VR experience with 16K resolution, highly textured touchable surfaces, and smell-o-vision. Only a $40 Meta subscription with ads.

[frezik@midwest.social]

Interesting--when I made a similar argument on Reddit some years ago, networking geniuses assured me that they needed more than 1Gbps to play lag-free games. This on /r/programming, no less.

[kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de]

I wonder if they use semiconductor optical amplifiers in the receivers, or if they can make do with avalanche photodiodes.

The 100G stuff I'm looking at has 18.5 dB budget with APDs, that seems rough considering you want a few kilometers of fiber, a few splices and a few connectors (probably LC/APC) as well.

[frezik@midwest.social]

Not OP, but I have my NAS and my office PC on 10Gbps SFP+ fiber, but that's so I can have fast speeds to my NAS. Spinning platters are now the limiting factor on throughput, and it'll be a while before SSDs come down in price enough for the kind of data hoarding volume I have. Roughly needs to be cut in half two more times, which is maybe closer than we all think.

2.5Gbps switches are generally good enough for home use while using plain copper wires, but I use a lot of old enterprise hardware on my network. Enterprise hardware never heard of 2.5Gbps ethernet.

Also, I found out my Unifi Edgerouter X maxed out at 500Mbps unless I shut off a lot of features. Upgraded to an OPNsense box. There's probably a lot of home user routers that are similarly limited.

[surewhynotlem@lemmy.world]

Decades ago....

"Why do I need electricity? I have candles. Lights seem excessive."

Yes, but once most people have electricity, new products will be designed to take advantage of it. Now you can have a washing machine, for example.

Broadband is the same. Once most of your population has high bandwidth, we can start to design things that will use it. Right now we're still designing for DSL speeds.

[thermonuclearcactus@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

lol I have 3Mbps down .5 up for 40$