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  • hiddenlayer555@lemmy.mlH [email protected]

    On Linux and Android. What are privacy oriented alternatives to Firefox now that it's no longer trustworthy?

    The ability to sync between devices would be a huge bonus, even just on a local network.

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    I've been using LibraWolf on desktop for several years now. It's just far simpler than modifying standard Firefox. for my personal needs.

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    • everymuffinisnowencrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zoneE [email protected]

      LibreWolf is what I use, but I heard Zen Browser is another fork that's been getting some traction. I don't use it though, but I've heard from someone who does that it works for them. thumbs-up

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      Been using Zen for the past week. It takes some getting used to, but it's been great so far.

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      • land@lemmy.mlL [email protected]

        Can’t trust Mozilla anymore with the data, so you’re better off finding alternatives. You can check out:
        xBrowserSync

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        You can check out: xBrowserSync

        I wish, but at 10MB size limit, it won't do

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        • hiddenlayer555@lemmy.mlH [email protected]

          On Linux and Android. What are privacy oriented alternatives to Firefox now that it's no longer trustworthy?

          The ability to sync between devices would be a huge bonus, even just on a local network.

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          Brave or LibreWolf.

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            If you want to keep the Gecko Engine from Mozilla to support an alternative to Google's monopoly here are a couple alternative for Linux :

            • Librewolf
            • Mullvad Browser
            • Zen Browser

            For Android you have to be aware that unfortunately every firefox based browser lack of per-site isolation unlike chromium browsers.

            • IronFox (active fork of Mull by DivestOS)
            • Fennec

            On the dark side of the spectrum you have chromium browser such as :

            • Brave (Linux & Android) (disable cryptocrap, sponsor backgrounds and it's quite good)
            • Cromite (Android)
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            For Android you have to be aware that unfortunately every firefox based browser lack of per-site isolation unlike chromium browsers.

            Wait really? Its 2025, seriously, what is Mozilla doing?

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            • hiddenlayer555@lemmy.mlH [email protected]

              On Linux and Android. What are privacy oriented alternatives to Firefox now that it's no longer trustworthy?

              The ability to sync between devices would be a huge bonus, even just on a local network.

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              So I haven't been following the Firefox thing that closely. Fennec isn't an alternative because it uses Firefox's Sync and Brave is out of the question because it's crypto Chrome?

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                Brave or LibreWolf.

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                https://www.spacebar.news/stop-using-brave-browser/

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                  Is brave an option?

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                  https://www.spacebar.news/stop-using-brave-browser/

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                    I've been using LibraWolf on desktop for several years now. It's just far simpler than modifying standard Firefox. for my personal needs.

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                    LibreWolf is great ! Coming from ArkenFox, I found LibreWolf's override cfg a bit easier.

                    They also have a pacdiff cfg to see what changes from version to version without the need to roam arkenfoxes github repo for hours to find what changed or what to change.

                    I installed it yesterday to see how it goes 🙂 If it doesn't fit, will go back to Arkenfox.

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                      Just amazing how people wake up, watch a bit of YouTube and run to social media saying the sky is falling in.

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                      Or you can stay in a sinking ship convince yourself "It's fine !" until it's too late?

                      Whatever chose your poison 🤷

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                      • hiddenlayer555@lemmy.mlH [email protected]

                        On Linux and Android. What are privacy oriented alternatives to Firefox now that it's no longer trustworthy?

                        The ability to sync between devices would be a huge bonus, even just on a local network.

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                        librewolf, mullvad, zen browser? all fork of firefox

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                          I use a similar set up. Librewolf on Linux and IronFox on Android. You could still use a Firefox account to sync, but I wouldn’t. I’ve heard there’s a way to host an older version of Firefox sync locally, but I haven’t looked into it.

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                          This + xBrowserSync for bookmarks.

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                            I've been using LibraWolf on desktop for several years now. It's just far simpler than modifying standard Firefox. for my personal needs.

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                            power of 'community-driven' projects

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                            • hiddenlayer555@lemmy.mlH [email protected]

                              On Linux and Android. What are privacy oriented alternatives to Firefox now that it's no longer trustworthy?

                              The ability to sync between devices would be a huge bonus, even just on a local network.

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                              Ironfox on Android, easily is the best.

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                                Or you can stay in a sinking ship convince yourself "It's fine !" until it's too late?

                                Whatever chose your poison 🤷

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                                Interesting metaphor.

                                At what point is too late ? What the consequences here, of giving it a few days? Of understanding to steps you can take protect your data ?

                                Because what you have now, is a bunch of idiots, running round yelling “Firefox is untrustworthy “. And jumping straight on the next fork of 20 million lines of code, because Internet bro says it’s better .

                                They havent the faintest, and I mean the faintest idea of what trust is,

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                                  librewolf, mullvad, zen browser? all fork of firefox

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                                  Not really an option because he said Android

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                                    If you want to keep the Gecko Engine from Mozilla to support an alternative to Google's monopoly here are a couple alternative for Linux :

                                    • Librewolf
                                    • Mullvad Browser
                                    • Zen Browser

                                    For Android you have to be aware that unfortunately every firefox based browser lack of per-site isolation unlike chromium browsers.

                                    • IronFox (active fork of Mull by DivestOS)
                                    • Fennec

                                    On the dark side of the spectrum you have chromium browser such as :

                                    • Brave (Linux & Android) (disable cryptocrap, sponsor backgrounds and it's quite good)
                                    • Cromite (Android)
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                                    I use ungoogled-chromium & thorium are worth a mention.

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                                    • hiddenlayer555@lemmy.mlH [email protected]

                                      On Linux and Android. What are privacy oriented alternatives to Firefox now that it's no longer trustworthy?

                                      The ability to sync between devices would be a huge bonus, even just on a local network.

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                                      Depends on your specific case, but IMO in order of preference for deskop, Tor Browser as much as possible, followed by Mullvad Browser as much as you can, for scenarios where you cannot use Tor Browser, followed by LibreWolf for the few sites that require persistent logins (you'll need to enable setting cookies for those specific sites).
                                      There's also other Firefox forks like GNU IceCat (unofficial binary for it), Floorp and Zen Browser.

                                      For a less complicated alternative, just swap out Firefox with LibreWolf. Just make sure to read the ENTIRE docs to save yourself from any nasty surprises. Especially about RFP (Resist Fingerprinting), WebGL, Canvas, etc.

                                      On Andriod, again, there's Tor Browser, IronFox, Fennec F-Driod. Additionally if you want a browser based on a different engine, there's Cromite, which is based off of Chromium, but it's probably better to stay with a less commonly used engine like Firefox rather than keep using the mainstream monopoly of Google.

                                      As an aside, this video helped me understand some stuff better and it seems to be less of Mozilla being untrustworthy and more about them being total losers in communication. I recommend checking it out.

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                                        Depends on your specific case, but IMO in order of preference for deskop, Tor Browser as much as possible, followed by Mullvad Browser as much as you can, for scenarios where you cannot use Tor Browser, followed by LibreWolf for the few sites that require persistent logins (you'll need to enable setting cookies for those specific sites).
                                        There's also other Firefox forks like GNU IceCat (unofficial binary for it), Floorp and Zen Browser.

                                        For a less complicated alternative, just swap out Firefox with LibreWolf. Just make sure to read the ENTIRE docs to save yourself from any nasty surprises. Especially about RFP (Resist Fingerprinting), WebGL, Canvas, etc.

                                        On Andriod, again, there's Tor Browser, IronFox, Fennec F-Driod. Additionally if you want a browser based on a different engine, there's Cromite, which is based off of Chromium, but it's probably better to stay with a less commonly used engine like Firefox rather than keep using the mainstream monopoly of Google.

                                        As an aside, this video helped me understand some stuff better and it seems to be less of Mozilla being untrustworthy and more about them being total losers in communication. I recommend checking it out.

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                                        I somehow missed reading about the part about syncing. Pretty sure LibreWolf and IronFox does allow that as well, you need to enable it somewhere in the settings and log into your Mozilla account I guess.

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                                          Depends on your specific case, but IMO in order of preference for deskop, Tor Browser as much as possible, followed by Mullvad Browser as much as you can, for scenarios where you cannot use Tor Browser, followed by LibreWolf for the few sites that require persistent logins (you'll need to enable setting cookies for those specific sites).
                                          There's also other Firefox forks like GNU IceCat (unofficial binary for it), Floorp and Zen Browser.

                                          For a less complicated alternative, just swap out Firefox with LibreWolf. Just make sure to read the ENTIRE docs to save yourself from any nasty surprises. Especially about RFP (Resist Fingerprinting), WebGL, Canvas, etc.

                                          On Andriod, again, there's Tor Browser, IronFox, Fennec F-Driod. Additionally if you want a browser based on a different engine, there's Cromite, which is based off of Chromium, but it's probably better to stay with a less commonly used engine like Firefox rather than keep using the mainstream monopoly of Google.

                                          As an aside, this video helped me understand some stuff better and it seems to be less of Mozilla being untrustworthy and more about them being total losers in communication. I recommend checking it out.

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                                          Oh also, Ladybird Browser, is being developed. It is not based off of Mozilla Firefox or Google Chromium or Safari. They're building their own browser independently without getting any code from other browsers.
                                          The Alpha release is planned to come out on 2026.

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