USA: Do I still file federal taxes if the federal government collapses?

[sam_bass@lemmy.ml]

Why bother? Money that's sent will go to their defense efforts against our revolutionaries so if you're on their side feel free. If not keep it and buy your own ammo for protection from invasion

[jewbacca117@lemmy.world]

They will weaponize the IRS against poor people and ignore the people committing big time tax fraud. Do with that information what you will.

[bombomom@lemmy.world]

Not at all. Musk is well known for having paid over $11,000,000,000 in taxes in a single year.

[treadful@lemmy.zip]

And pay with what? Would the dollar still even exist?

[bombomom@lemmy.world]

Try to set it so nobody owes anybody much. If you fall too short on withholding you can end up paying interest on the difference.

[idkwhatusernametoputherelolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

You cannot escape the tax person.

They will come to you, either in suits, or in military uniforms. And they will collect what you legally owe to them.

(If the civillian government falls, the military will just take over and rule under martial law)

[idkwhatusernametoputherelolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

I think you are only allow to reduce withholding if you did not owe them money when you did your most recent filing.

[idkwhatusernametoputherelolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Every nation in the world is a capitalist oligarchy if you haven't noticed. Every state is evil.

The only way to fix it, is to abolish statism worldwide.

[sendmephotos@lemmy.world]

https://americansfortaxfairness.org/musks-11-billion-tax-bill-big-news-just-10-wealth-increase-far-year/

Musk may have paid little or no federal income taxes since at least 2014—despite his ballooning fortune—so the one-time payment of $8.3 billion (or even $11 billion) in essence covers multiple years. According to ProPublica’s analysis of IRS records, Musk paid no federal income taxes in 2018. Between 2014 and 2018 his wealth grew by $13.9 billion, yet he paid just $455 million in federal income taxes, a rate of only 3.27%.

[justiceforporygon@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

Jokes aside, the IRS actually has contingency plans to continue collecting taxes in the event of an apocalypse, so yes probably.

[davel@lemmy.ml]

I’ve noticed that they are not all capitalist oligarchies, actually, though most currently are.

We would also like to ultimately abolish the state, though you and I might not mean the same precisely the same thing by it.

[lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml]

If the government collapses, you're gunna have much worse things to worry about than taxes.

[nunar@lemmy.world]

They won't. This whole thing is undermining the IRS. They don't have the manpower they won't have the budget. Tax cuts for the rich also equals cuts to go after them.
It's a free for all now

[penguinmage@lemmy.world]

I'm super excited to see it happen quickly that all the social security I paid in is going to be fucked off and maybe my fed taxes too... cause yay orange Hitler is now a dictator and no one can stop him

[themurphy@lemmy.ml]

They don't have the manpower to go after everyone, but you never need to.

You make an example out of 1.000 people nation wide, and most people wouldn't dare to not pay.

[captainbasculin@lemmy.ml]

IRS has plans listed for an apocalyptic event (basically they need to continue tax collection within 48 hours), but they do work for the government. Without the government; you wouldn't need to pay taxes; but it would be the least of your concerns.

[nunar@lemmy.world]

It's not that. They don't have the people to make an example

[evilsandwichman@hexbear.net]

The enclave will be expecting it, and the Frank they're sending ain't the one from Philadelphia

[evilsandwichman@hexbear.net]

World peace?

[juliebean@lemm.ee]

if you think it's all likely to fall apart soon, file asap if you're expecting to get money back, but put it off as long as possible if you're gonna have to pay them more. if the government is going down, might as well get your piece of it while you can.